On Black.

Alexis Grant 0:00
Hi, I'm Alexis.

Hamsata Mazou 0:01
And I'm Hamsata

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:01
And I'm Jeanine.

Hamsata Mazou 0:03
And you're listening to WKNC 88.1 FM HD-1.

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:16
What do you got for us Alexis?

Alexis Grant 0:18
Wow, I want to, I'm actually genuinely interested in this because I've had this conversation with my friend before it was so fun. And it's like really interesting to see if you had your own private island and started your own mini society. First off, who are you bringing to start the society and what do you, like, how are you going to set it up?

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:37
I'm gonna start off with me,-

Alexis Grant 0:39
Okay.

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:40
-my family, the immediate ones and I need a man to repopulate that society.

Alexis Grant 0:47
Just the one?

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:51
Yeah.

Hamsata Mazou 0:52
I mean, your family are men too, right?

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:55
Oh but my, the cousins are not gonna be.

Alexis Grant 0:57
You see what I'm saying? You need more people than that.

Jeanine Ikekhua 1:00
Okay, I'm gonna bring y'all.

Alexis Grant 1:01
Okay.

Jeanine Ikekhua 1:02
Okay, but I'm not gonna lie every woman that comes to the island every man that comes to the island. Like you got to come with a partner.

Alexis Grant 1:11
Okay, that's better.

Jeanine Ikekhua 1:12
You gotta come, or you can come, like I can admit certain single people in certain, like I can admit a certain amount of single women and a certain amoung of single men, or so-, certain amount of single whatever. But yeah, y'all can come but show up with your little boo bays. Show up with your little boo bays, but yeah, I would bring my family my friends. Select friends, if you piss me off, I'm kicking you off. I don't care.

Alexis Grant 1:38
Oh wow, it's giving is tyrancy. This is not, this is not a democracy.

Jeanine Ikekhua 1:43
I'm picking you up from the island. You know those like, little like,-

Hamsata Mazou 1:46
The crane?

Jeanine Ikekhua 1:46
Yeah. I'm kicking you off my island.

I'm picking you up if you mess up, swing, but you got to do something crazy. Like you gotta, like, sleep with somebody husband. On an island like be for real right now. There's only six of us.

Hamsata Mazou 2:07
Humans will always be humans. They gonna do that.

Jeanine Ikekhua 2:09
That's what I'm saying. But no, I'm not. I don't know.

Alexis Grant 2:11
At least not in the first three generations. Like let me die first before you start getting messy.

Jeanine Ikekhua 2:15
That's very true, like two days? Oh, yes. I slept with her husband. What? Get off the island. Get off the island.

Alexis Grant 2:24
What? In my head, the last time I talked about this, I basically like figured out the aspirations of each of my friends. And I figured out like, what role they would each have in the society and stuff. So like, my friend that goes to UVA, she would be in charge of the education system for the whole island. Um, and then like, yeah, I just had each friend in charge of like something big. So basically, almost everybody I was bringing was gonna have a role in office or like a very, like, director-torial role.

She's a businesswoman.

Jeanine Ikekhua 2:59
No I'm thinking how can we repopulate. Lexi's thinking longevity.

Alexis Grant 3:02
Yes. And then what I was going to do is I was gonna give like, each person that I personally invited, like, five people to bring that they can pick that they also feel like would be contributing members of society because, like, I'm not, like yes, I have a lot of friends, I have a lot of people I'm acquainted with, I have a lot of people I'm cool with, but for this island to work, I'm sorry, it's the real of the realist.

Jeanine Ikekhua 3:30
Yeah.

Alexis Grant 3:30
It's the real the realist. And because it's the real of the realist, I trust their judgment. So that's why I'll let them pick five people. And y'all got it like I'm not even gonna do a background check. But I'm not gonna like screen them for real for real like, you pick the five people I trust your judgment because I'm already bringing you in the island. I'm already putting you in high position. So pick five more people be contributing people in society. And then I probably get like, hopefully a lot of those people would want to adopt and then we can adopt some kids bring in some more like you know,

Jeanine Ikekhua 4:02
Yeah, for sure.

Alexis Grant 4:03
Some children to start off with whatever.

Hamsata Mazou 4:08
Adopting children.

Alexis Grant 4:09
Yeah.

Hamsata Mazou 4:10
So smart.

Jeanine Ikekhua 4:11
No, yeah it definitely will. I don't know where we gonna find these kids just laying around.

Alexis Grant 4:15
The adoption, like agency.

Jeanine Ikekhua 4:17
There's no way, oh so you just like take some from the adoption agency.

Alexis Grant 4:20
Yeah like we are going to adopt them and take them with us.

Jeanine Ikekhua 4:23
Oh, no, I thought you meant like you're gonna literally have an adoption agency on the island. That's why I was like where are you going to find these kids?

Alexis Grant 4:32
No, yes, and take them-

Jeanine Ikekhua 4:32
Oh, no, yeah for sure.

Hamsata Mazou 4:34
That's so smart. Oh no yeah for sure.

Jeanine Ikekhua 4:35
Okay, my only thing is like, I don't want to discredit anything you've said right?

Alexis Grant 4:43
The crazy start.

Jeanine Ikekhua 4:44
Jumpscare, but like you've had time to think about this, that's so good, so I'm like,-

Alexis Grant 4:53
But to be fair, I came up with this in like 15 minutes when I was having the conversation.

Jeanine Ikekhua 4:56
Okay. I was about to say.

Alexis Grant 4:57
I haven't thought about it since.

Hamsata Mazou 4:58
That's like more than us.

Jeanine Ikekhua 4:59
Our little like, our little like, whatever we spit out. It's not ever,-

Alexis Grant 4:59
We're coming up with it together. We're coming up with a high functioning, right.

Jeanine Ikekhua 5:12
The one thing I am scared for is like, yes, I trust my friends to not bring anybody dumb and not willing to contribute. It's not how people act by themselves or in their own circles is how you act when I bring you to people that you don't know you've never interacted with. That is my biggest fear. Because if I bring you to a new environment, and you don't know how to act, or you don't know how to assimilate yourself into that environment, it's not gonna work on this island. Like, it's not gonna be war, there's not gonna be a north in the south like, it's gonna be one see what I'm saying?

Hamsata Mazou 5:43
Yeah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 5:44
I don't know. I think that's my biggest fear with it. Still I trust my friends.

Alexis Grant 5:48
I trust my friends, I think my biggest fear is gonna be like, micromanaging.

Jeanine Ikekhua 5:53
Yeah, especially micromanaging your friends. Sometimes they don't like, I feel so many people don't know how to respect like, yes, I'm your friend. But at the end of the day.

Alexis Grant 6:05
Like in this situation I'm your boss. I'm saying, and like, I don't know, because the people I have coming to mine, like, they're gonna get what they need to get done, especially because it's in the respective field that they want to be passionate in. Because I'm not, if I'm bringing my friend in, you're gonna be placed in the position where you're passionate, not necessarily where you're in college for. So.

Jeanine Ikekhua 6:26
That's valid.

Alexis Grant 6:27
Yeah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 6:27
I agree. So let's get to the relationships on this island.

Alexis Grant 6:31
Okay.

Hamsata Mazou 6:33
Um,-

Jeanine Ikekhua 6:37
Hold on, if we come on this island if you let us in.

Alexis Grant 6:40
Yeah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 6:40
If we come on this island,-

Alexis Grant 6:41
I'm letting y'all in. Y'all are great.

Jeanine Ikekhua 6:43
If we come on this island,-

Hamsata Mazou 6:45
You said five friends and I was like damn.

Jeanine Ikekhua 6:46
Yeah, I said welp, guys, I'll be on mine. I said that's nice.

Hamsata Mazou 6:53
No for real.

Alexis Grant 6:56
No, no, no, it's, if I sat down, made a list right now, I can think of a good 20 people to bring on the island. And then each one, and each one of those 20 would be like five people. So,-

Jeanine Ikekhua 7:05
We're at 100 people.

Alexis Grant 7:07
And then we adopting kids. Let's say we adopt like another 30, 40, 50 kids.

Jeanine Ikekhua 7:12
Okay.

Alexis Grant 7:12
We have, we have a population going.

Hamsata Mazou 7:14
One question, though. For the kids you adopt,-

Alexis Grant 7:17
Yes.

Hamsata Mazou 7:17
-the people that come on the island, are they going to be forced to take on a child?

Jeanine Ikekhua 7:21
Not forced.

Alexis Grant 7:22
Not forced.

Jeanine Ikekhua 7:24
No, I mean, they kind of have to, if you're bring, I guess you'd only bring the amount of children that they want. But even that's kind of,-

Hamsata Mazou 7:32
Do you see how that kind of gets sticky.

Alexis Grant 7:33
It's, it's sticky. But I feel like I have enough friends who do want to adopt where it can work out who are like, who actually do want to do that already.

So that's my,-

-yeah, but it could still get sticky.

Jeanine Ikekhua 7:48
Yeah, and I'm not gonna lie, like my children are gonna, I'm gonna raise my children to have that in them of like, adopting is a good thing. It has never been a bad thing. It is a good thing. And you should adopt children. I'm gonna I'm gonna raise that in them. Yeah, one of the many, many other things.

Alexis Grant 8:03
Yeah. Also, I would like everybody to be semi-self-sustaining.

Jeanine Ikekhua 8:10
Oh, yeah. I want to like grow our own fruits and vegetables.

Alexis Grant 8:13
Yeah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 8:13
Like barely, like the things that we cannot, like cannot make. Like, we can like go to the main city and like, get like, yeah, every once in a while, like, maybe like once every two months, once every month. But I really want us like growing vegetables. Have our own factories make our own, like all of it.

Alexis Grant 8:32
Yeah. So I need to find like, I need to get close with somebody who can do carpentry. I don't know, I don't think I know anybody that can do carpentry somebody's got to make our furniture.

Jeanine Ikekhua 8:41
Or somebody's gonna have to learn.

Alexis Grant 8:42
Someone will have to learn, someone gonna have to be like, you know what, I got you.

Hamsata Mazou 8:45
Right? Who gonna be the Bob the Builder.

Alexis Grant 8:47
Who's going to be the Bob the Builder.

Jeanine Ikekhua 8:49
I'm getting an engineer, I'm getting a civil engineer. And I'm bringing an interior designer. I know, I know people so we can make it work. I did an internship in interior design. After, I wanted to be an interior designer,-

Hamsata Mazou 9:02
Really?

Jeanine Ikekhua 9:02
-I realized that yeah, my black self, it's not gonna work.

Hamsata Mazou 9:06
Why not?

Jeanine Ikekhua 9:07
Um, I have the eye for putting things together. But I don't have the eye for drawing things. And I didn't realize how much in the interior design is like a lot of like drawing plans from scratch. Like drawing, like a lot of it is like-

Hamsata Mazou 9:22
Like architecture?

Jeanine Ikekhua 9:23
It really is. It really is like first level of, like, architecture stuff but more on like the decorating side, but it's like a lot of just like creativity in drawing and physical movement of the pen and I can't do that. I can make something look pretty but I can't build it from scratch with the drawing and then make it look pretty.

Alexis Grant 9:44
Now is that just for, because I don't know if these are different. Is that just for interior designers and not interior decorators? Do you see what I'm saying? Because I know interior designers work more with like architects, especially if somebody's building a house from scratch because they do do a lot of like the Inside drawings like feng shui of the room, like spacing stuff, but then are interior decorators more just the people who get the pieces.

Jeanine Ikekhua 10:09
They honestly could be I did an interior design internship.

Hamsata Mazou 10:12
I think decorating might be for you.

Jeanine Ikekhua 10:15
For me? But even like still, like constantly coming up with new ideas. I just couldn't find it like, it was really cute in the moment, but thinking of how I'm gonna turn this into a living, and doing it every single day.

Hamsata Mazou 10:27
You gotta have a passion.

Jeanine Ikekhua 10:28
You know what I'm saying and it just like it wasn't there.

Hamsata Mazou 10:31
And that's fair.

Alexis Grant 10:33
That's very fair. I hate to say it, but like, if I did this island, I'm gonna need at least for the first set. I'm gonna need some cohesion between the styles of the houses, not the interiors, but the out, the exterior, like I love diversity in houses though don't get me wrong, but I need some sort of cohesion or like, like, gradient, you know, like if these two houses are similar, they go closer together and like, you make your way.

Jeanine Ikekhua 10:58
I'm not going on, I'm gonna be honest, but my society we probably go have some type of homeowners association.

Alexis Grant 11:03
I didn't even think about that.

Jeanine Ikekhua 11:06
I know, I know home, I don't,-

-like to settle like, like home owners like conflicts, and like, like, Oh, she don't be taking her trash and it's in front of the yard and they'll be stinking. Just like little things like that. Because like you never think-

Hamsata Mazou 11:17
You gonna need one of those, you gonna need one of those.

Jeanine Ikekhua 11:18
-yeah, like you never think about it. Because I'm not coming in to be like, take out your trash Daphne. Like-

Alexis Grant 11:25
Oh, not Daphne.

Jeanine Ikekhua 11:25
I'm not doing that with Daphne and John, like, y'all better f-, Home Owners Association, like y'all better figure it out. Y'all gonna sign contracts on this island though.

Alexis Grant 11:32
I'm s-, got to, got to, got to.

Jeanine Ikekhua 11:35
Because who leaving. You're not leaving, I'm sorry.

Alexis Grant 11:37
No, literally. And honestly, I'd probably open it up for applications to bring more people in.

Jeanine Ikekhua 11:43
Oh, yeah.

Alexis Grant 11:44
But like, this is where, see, I feel like my micromanaging would come into, this play more than like micromanaging necessarily people I'm bringing in, whatever. Like, I would have to be there in every interview for every person who applies. Like I, I trust my friends, but I can't, I can't be confident in somebody else, accepting people into my society. Like, I do want it to be a democracy. But after I die. Before I die, it's me.

Jeanine Ikekhua 12:13
So not a democracy.

Hamsata Mazou 12:13
And that's so real.

Jeanine Ikekhua 12:15
No, it is though.

Hamsata Mazou 12:16
Like speak your truth.

Alexis Grant 12:17
Like before I die, it's just like, I'll have a system, I'll have a council, I'll have a board but at the end of the day, my word is say.

Jeanine Ikekhua 12:25
No, because it's my island. I mean, think about it this way. This is her little baby that she's birthing.

Hamsata Mazou 12:28
It's your island.

Jeanine Ikekhua 12:32
Exactly.

Hamsata Mazou 12:33
And as much, like democracy makes sense. You want it to have the right frameworks to actually survive, to sustain and that may mean putting things into your own hands to make sure everything is done the way you want it to, put in those systems and stuff like that. And then once those are in place, then you can let other people in, then you can like help them with the rubrics that you set forth, you know, make them and stuff like that because it's your island maybe if it was like something that y'all all find together. Okay, maybe it's democratic from the jump. But it's an autocracy until then.

Jeanine Ikekhua 13:02
I mean, a lot of, that's how a lot of countries are like a lot of countries have like their founding whatever, whatever. And then it was like we need to be more democratic. And then we have like the modern day democracy. But no, for sure, it's your island.

Hamsata Mazou 13:16
No I just want to defend your point because I know it sounds crazy,-

Alexis Grant 13:19
But it's got to be that way.

Hamsata Mazou 13:20
It makes it you know, a little bit more sensible. Because you-

Alexis Grant 13:23
I just say it's gotta, I gotta.

Jeanine Ikekhua 13:26
It makes sense. It's your island. They signed a contract to be on Lexi's Island. Y'all don't want to be on this island go make your own.

Hamsata Mazou 13:33
Is it gonna be called Lexi's Island?

Alexis Grant 13:34
Nah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 13:35
I don't, yeah, I definitely wouldn't want it named after me, that's too much.

Alexis Grant 13:37
But like the demo, even for the democracy.

Jeanine Ikekhua 13:39
All hail Lexi.

Alexis Grant 13:40
Dear God no. But like, even with a democracy, I'm sorry. I'm putting so many things in place so that the government system does not end up like the one here. I'm sorry, we're not doing, there's no parties. I'm not, I don't, I don't like the, that's a personal, I don't like the parties.

What parties? Oh, like the political parties.

I don't,

Jeanine Ikekhua 14:07
What?

Hamsata Mazou 14:08
The first time she said parties I was thinking like no. Like what? Like, no.

Jeanine Ikekhua 14:14
Lexi, no parties?

Hamsata Mazou 14:16
Like, that's very unlike Lexi. And then I re-thought the word party.

Alexis Grant 14:20
Yeah.

Hamsata Mazou 14:21
And I was like, oh-

Alexis Grant 14:22
Political party. Yeah, same with like, the Electoral College. Like I get why they did it initially. But I don't think that should be a thing, especially, especially from okay, let's get away form America, oh-

Hamsata Mazou 14:34
Oh, I was gonna elaborate on your point as to like, why it makes sense. But go ahead.

Alexis Grant 14:38
I was just gonna say for my personal society, because I'm bringing in people I know who are educated, and I know who are passionate about educating like even children, I feel like everyone's gonna be well, educated.

Hamsata Mazou 14:47
That's exactly what I was gonna say, I was gonna be like the people you're bringing are already gonna have like, similar philosophies and stuff. So there's not going to be a reason to have two opposing parties, you know? And then if you feel like the people that you're bringing in, and they're bringing in are still gonna be on a similar wavelength, you know? Should it really be a need for it? I mean, I always feel like people's opinions do differ but not too the extent, of like political parties.

Alexis Grant 15:09
Yeah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 15:09
I feel like there's a big difference between political parties in the US. But um,-

Alexis Grant 15:14
What were you gonna say Jeanine?

Jeanine Ikekhua 15:15
What was I gonna say, my mind is thinking, how are we going to financially sustain this island? Like, are people coming in with money? What's our currency? Is it dollars? Is it like euros? Like what is the currency? Who is the bank? Like, is it bank of Lexi? Lexi's Bank? Is it a bank of the United Lexi's, like, what is this bank?

Hamsata Mazou 15:35
I think-

Jeanine Ikekhua 15:36
Hamsata's bank like, what is this bank.

Alexis Grant 15:37
I might have to do like, three or four different currencies that everybody has, like, knowledge on so that when you travel, and you go out and you're dealing with, like, international entities, you are still competitive?

Jeanine Ikekhua 15:49
I would do euros.

Alexis Grant 15:50
That's what I'm thinking. I think I would do the US dollar. I would do euros, and maybe like one or two others.

Jeanine Ikekhua 15:56
Oh, yeah. I don't want to do the US dollar because, but I would kind of have to.

Alexis Grant 16:00
But realistically, it makes sense. To do US dollars. Yeah.

Hamsata Mazou 16:05
So crazy. It's like living in here, you be like it really ain't sh*t. And then like, you look at us, like in comparison to other places like woah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 16:15
I feel like America has more like not foundational issues. It does have some foundational issues. But it's more like, the basics are kind of okay. Like, the, I, in my mind, I compare it to Nigeria, I'm thinking the poverty rate compared to Nigeria, compared to here is way better, like you actually have systems set in place to help people, you see what I'm saying? So I feel like more of the issues are more like socially, like issues. Does that make sense?

Alexis Grant 16:42
The social issues.

Jeanine Ikekhua 16:43
Like, I feel like a lot of people like-

Alexis Grant 16:45
The morals and the ethics are messed up.

Jeanine Ikekhua 16:46
Yeah, like, I'm thinking like, somebody told me this the other day, they were like, it is so, so bad. But they were like some of the things that, um, people in America are fighting for, like, people in Nigeria, like, we just try to get by. And I was just like, it's so true.

Hamsata Mazou 17:05
I mean, that's really what privilege is you know,

Jeanine Ikekhua 17:07
Yeah. Cuz I'm just like, we brought up like, what's it called? Like fighting for, like we brought up like racism and stuff. But, we also don't do a racism. Our version is like colorism, they were like a lot of people aren't even focused on that. And I think that's when people come over to America. They're always like, from other countries, specifically, Nigeria. They're like, what is going on here? Y'all doing the absolute most it's because like, we're just so used to have to fight for the bare minimum, that nobody has even thought, oh, what is colorism? Like?

Alexis Grant 17:36
Maybe we should look at it.

Jeanine Ikekhua 17:37
Yeah, maybe we should look into this one. Like everybody's thinking, how the heck am I gonna put food on my plate does that make sense?

Alexis Grant 17:45
Yeah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 17:45
But I was thinking in my society. Am I gonna have just black people?

Alexis Grant 17:50
I'm not. I already know. Just because, like the other friends I do have, not all of them are black.

Hamsata Mazou 17:55
I wouldn't say,-

Yeah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 17:58
sorry, not just black. People of color. Minority

Alexis Grant 18:00
I have,

Hamsata Mazou 18:00
I feel like-

Alexis Grant 18:01
I do have a white person that I would bring to my island.

Jeanine Ikekhua 18:02
I have a white person that I'd bring to my island. And she know how to make them, she know how to make them engineers, engineers. So I kind of need this one.

Alexis Grant 18:14
Mine, I've got like two or three friends who like, they're like poli sci. And one of them's white. She be, she a real one. That's like the only white friend I fully trust.

Hamsata Mazou 18:26
I was gonna say, I feel like having people from different backgrounds and races are really good when you're dealing with other countries and other like um,-

Jeanine Ikekhua 18:33
Y'all gonna join the United Nations. Sorry, go ahead.

Alexis Grant 18:37
I don't, I don't know if I know enough about the United Nations to determine if my island needs to join them or not.

Jeanine Ikekhua 18:41
I wouldn't join the US controls that crap. I don't want any of that. They don't do nothing they figurehead.

Hamsata Mazou 18:49
But yeah, it'd be good for like, you know, political things, and-

Alexis Grant 18:51
Yeah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 18:51
Yeah.

Hamsata Mazou 18:52
-financial things as well. Because, you know, it might be easier for us to have somebody that looks like the person, country that you're interacting with, you know, for your benefit, as like, shallow as that may sound that's gonna go to your benefit and that's the way we operate as people.

Alexis Grant 19:06
Yeah.

Hamsata Mazou 19:07
That's just the reality of it, so.

Jeanine Ikekhua 19:08
I would find Vibranium.

Alexis Grant 19:13
Me on one hand, I'm gonna find-

Jeanine Ikekhua 19:16
On the other hand, me and my people are looking for Vibranium like, I feel like we are going to have to find something.

Hamsata Mazou 19:24
Like some type of resource.

Jeanine Ikekhua 19:26
Yes. Something. Yes,

Alexis Grant 19:28
I see my island creating something more that the rest of the world wants. And that could be a big source of our income.

Jeanine Ikekhua 19:34
Because I'm not gonna lie to you guys. What is preventing other people from coming to my island and-

Alexis Grant 19:40
And taking over. I'm gonna make allies immediately, all my friends that come from those, everybody, you're going back to your country, just for a little bit, and I need you to get in good and make the highlight and then you can come back.

Jeanine Ikekhua 19:51
Yeah, I'm gonna have foreign diplomats.

Alexis Grant 19:53
Yeah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 19:54
You gonna be in that country making, yes, what do y'all want with me? Nah we having foreign diplomats y'all go, y'all gonna talk to them and tell them, we need this, this, and that please, ASAP. We're gonna make this work.

Alexis Grant 20:08
Yeah, I got to create something like, realistically, I think if we were to focus on something to ship out, immediately, I'm thinking it'd be some type of cross, like, breaded plant, that's food, you know, like, create a new food or create an enhanced food that's not bad for you that doesn't have like, GMOs or something. But like,-

Jeanine Ikekhua 20:36
You gotta have GMOs.

Alexis Grant 20:38
I can't do, uh-

Jeanine Ikekhua 20:39
Because if you can't, if it doesn't have GMOs then it gotta be already existing in the world.

Alexis Grant 20:43
But you can still create, like, you can still cross breed plants, like it doesn't always take but you could still-

Jeanine Ikekhua 20:47
I feel like we're thinking of two different, I'm thinking of like, a plant that's gonna like, let, finish your thought, finish your thought I'm sorry.

Alexis Grant 20:53
I mean, nah, it probably will have GMOs. The more I think about, but we're gonna create something that's like, because I've seen some, I'm not making complete, sentences, I've seen some article, I'm like losing it. I've seen some articles where like, people have created plants that's like, this has, like, you know, eight times the amount of this vitamin or whatever, so that people can eat less of it, but still get what they need for the body, like one of those kinds of things. And then make it easily accessible. And then like, whoever's, like, the main farmer, like, because everybody else should be at least growing their own, like herbs and stuff like that, like, you know, the easy things they'll grow like, the other main things that are harder to grow, and then they'll be in charge of growing like that main plant, whatever we come up with, that's good for, you know, other people.

Jeanine Ikekhua 21:37
I was thinking, y'all, we're finna be entertainment, my island, let me stop because nobody's gonna want to go. But we're finna be entertainment island, like, where the content creators at? Where the Youtubers at? Like, where all these people at? Let's create our own social media platform. And let's take over all the platforms and let's have another black, backup platform in case that one starts to fall like it always fails. I would, you know they do TikTok was not here a couple years ago. Just got here.

Alexis Grant 22:02
I mean, it's real, you know what I'm saying? But they rebranded like hella new words.

Jeanine Ikekhua 22:05
You see what I'm saying, like,-

Hamsata Mazou 22:06
It's so interesting-

Jeanine Ikekhua 22:07
-have it in the back pocket.

Hamsata Mazou 22:08
To hear you guys. You know, like you're thinking content creation, making it look, you know,-

Jeanine Ikekhua 22:13
Oh, yeah. But also, realistically, I'm not gonna lie, like, if I'm making my own island. It's gonna be me and just me. It's gonna be me. My husband, even my husband sometimes be like, you got to have your own island because I gotta do me sometimes. Me and my kids and my husband, and my mommy can come visit, my daddy can come visit. My brothers, sisters come visit, but it's me.

Alexis Grant 22:39
What's, what's gonna be your guys's laws on, people immigrating to your country?

Jeanine Ikekhua 22:46
You got to be of negro descent, let me stop.

Alexis Grant 22:47
Oh, wow.

Jeanine Ikekhua 22:51
That's pretty much it. Let me stop. Because out of Africa theory, but what was I gonna say, um, laws on migrating. I don't want it to be like America.

Hamsata Mazou 23:01
You have to do an application.

Alexis Grant 23:03
For sure.

Hamsata Mazou 23:04
For sure. Application, I gotta see the type of person you are.

Alexis Grant 23:09
I'm gonna have to do a test.

Hamsata Mazou 23:10
Interview.

Jeanine Ikekhua 23:11
Oh, yeah, we got to do tests like different like, because certain countries carry more diseases than the other just because of like the area, or carry different diseases. Do you see what I'm saying?

Hamsata Mazou 23:22
I mean, yeah, yeah. Do like the checks and stuff or whatever. Yeah, like and then like, I just want to see your reasoning. I feel like it kind of be like a college application lowkey.

Jeanine Ikekhua 23:30
It would be, but way quicker because I know like, if you're coming to me to have a place to stay. You need somewhere to stay.

Hamsata Mazou 23:36
I mean, yeah, there's gonna be like a department for like, you know. You know, crisis department. That's nice. I mean, also, I mean, college application process, and then maybe a little bit more on your like, personal background, roughly. That doesn't really get into college. They're just like, where are you now? Like, whatever. Yeah, I was, like that's it.

Jeanine Ikekhua 23:56
How's the education system looking.

Alexis Grant 23:59
immaculate. I got my girl Naomi on it, bro. I don't have to. I don't have to blink. I trust her fully for the education. I don't have to blink. I don't have to ever think about it. She's got it. It's on lock. I'm not worried about anything. Not a single thing. Not a single thing.

Jeanine Ikekhua 24:18
Period

Hamsata Mazou 24:20
Elaborate on Naomi then like, what is she bringing us to the table? That's like.

Alexis Grant 24:26
She has such a strong passion for kids and education and the importance of literature. I feel like everybody can benefit from literature. And it almost like breaks my heart, but it was kind of a little shocking. When I came here. How many friends I realized I had that. Like, I'm not gonna sit here and say like I read often, but it's just because I'm busy. But I enjoy literature. I enjoy reading. There's a lot of people I've met that do not like, they have the time to read and they don't, and they don't enjoy reading. And it's kind of mind blowing for me, especially because especially like the people I hang out with back home, they all like to read. So I feel like the fact that that's like, a big focus, like that's what she's in school for, and stuff. Like, I feel like literature is such a great way for self discovery for knowledge, and just makes you a better well rounded human being as a whole. And I know that would be one of the things at the forefront. So I know that everybody on my like, maybe not the initial people I bring, because some of the people I bring, I don't know if they like to read or not. But at least all the kids and the people who go through the education system, like whether whatever they want to do, I know they're gonna enjoy reading. Drugs. Marijuana is legal. I'd probably make shrooms legal too.

Jeanine Ikekhua 25:51
Would y'all grow y'all own?

Alexis Grant 25:52
Would I grow our own? I would have to get an expert. I don't know enough about that to know like, climates?

Jeanine Ikekhua 25:59
I'm talking about like, would your country like grow your own?

Alexis Grant 26:01
I don't know. Because I don't know if that's like a climate based thing. You probably.

Jeanine Ikekhua 26:05
I mean, you could simulate environments.

Alexis Grant 26:06
Yeah. Cuz people be going like, yeah, so they could, yeah, I probably would then, grow their own, I would have, I don't know, I'm iffy about setting limits on it. Because I know, like, a lot of countries who don't have limit, like, for example, on drinking, who don't like try and set certain boundaries, there's not a taboo on it. So then people don't do it as much, and they don't have many problems about it. Like the US has, like, you know, drinking problems. And like, you know, they tried to outlaw it in the past, that was a big thing. In Barbados, like, the legal age is like 18, like a lot of other countries, but you can drink younger, as long as like, you have permission, your parents, like, they don't even care really, I'm gonna be real, they don't even care. They don't care that much. And there's no taboo, there's no like, you don't really see over drinkers, you don't see like alcohol poisoning. Like that's not, because drinking isn't a big taboo. So I don't know, I think it's hard to say like, I want to see how things go. And then set limits, because then if you set limits too late, you've got to uproaring, but at the same time, this is a very small society, and I'm bringing in very strategic people. So I don't think there would be an uproar.

Hamsata Mazou 27:15
But I feel like the people that you're bringing in, I feel you kind of already know how they operate and what their intake and usage would be.

Alexis Grant 27:21
Yeah.

Hamsata Mazou 27:21
So wouldn't it be more so for, like future children and stuff. And so the limits you would set for them, I feel like, this would be more of a research thing, rather than your society thing, just because these kids, you know, by the time they grew up and everything your society is gonna be like, well developed, you're well into the developing stage that if you do foresee, like limits, and be late for you to actually see it, you know, what I mean?

Alexis Grant 27:45
Part of the education system, so that they're aware of what's going on?

Jeanine Ikekhua 27:48
Yeah, for sure.

Hamsata Mazou 27:49
I'd agree, I feel like knowledge is power, you know. And like having that knowledge, knowing how to use it and stuff like that, it's gonna allow for people to know, to make wise decisions with it, and know, like, what the effects are. Also, like anything taboo, you know, people are just going to always want to go for it. So you can't have this, but you can't have this, they're gonna go for what they can't get. And that's just human nature. So yeah, I definitely agree, like educating them. And then probably like, I mean, a reasonable, like, age limit of like, you don't want a six year old, you know.

Alexis Grant 28:17
yeah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 28:18
Yeah.

Hamsata Mazou 28:19
But you know, like, of, of age, age, that seems reasonable for each, like, drug usage. I can see like, being, you know, a good starting point.

Jeanine Ikekhua 28:30
I was thinking of like, my mind keeps on going to like the extreme situation.

Alexis Grant 28:35
That's okay. This, this is the things we have to think about. In order for our islands to be successful.

Jeanine Ikekhua 28:40
Period. I was thinking jail. So I was thinking like murderers, pedophiles, rapists, I'm thinking like, the extremely, because I'm thinking, like, when I first thought of the children, I'm thinking aww, so cute, and I thought, what mothertrucker is trying to harm these kids in this island. And I'm thinking, Okay, if we bring people in, because people change, people change.

Hamsata Mazou 29:03
They do.

Jeanine Ikekhua 29:03
None of my people are going to change to the point where that's the BS that you're going to be on because I'm not having it. I don't know. I feel like if you do anything of that extreme,

Alexis Grant 29:14
exiled.

Jeanine Ikekhua 29:15
yeah, I'm sending you to American jail. Like have fun over there.

Alexis Grant 29:18
You're exiled, you gotta go, you're actually now a refugee because you will not come back here. So sorry.

Jeanine Ikekhua 29:23
I'm being so serious too like, you have to go.

Alexis Grant 29:26
you had your one chance.

Hamsata Mazou 29:28
That is so true

Jeanine Ikekhua 29:29
You can mess up but that is a different degree of mess up

Hamsata Mazou 29:33
So like the kids you guys are bringing in right? Are they going to be even like, people? Well, not children. Okay, like 15, 16 year olds as well. Are they just gonna be strictly like, you know, like five like.

Alexis Grant 29:47
Like impressionable children.

Hamsata Mazou 29:48
Yeah, cuz you know, they they're gonna carry their past and their baggage with it. You know what I mean? And like so like some actions, like even if you know, your past is your past and it's ingrained in you, no matter how good your Present may be, and your future and stuff like that your past behaviors or experiences, may cloud that, you know might go back relapse to like old habits or something like yeah. Are those people you're just not gonna bring onto the island, hear the interview process? Because you're adopting these kids. You know what I mean?

Yeah, because this is where we get into, like, how strict are you going to be about the people you're allowing in before you're like, perpetuating like, you have to be?

Alexis Grant 30:17
Yeah. Or like, because like, what is it called? Eurogenics? Like, an Aryan race type situation?

Yeah. Like, where you're selecting certain people. So like, I think I would have.

Jeanine Ikekhua 30:41
I don't know, either, because like, these are children. Like, they did not choose to be in their circles.

Alexis Grant 30:47
They didn't.

Jeanine Ikekhua 30:48
But like they're kids, but also, like, if I know a child has a history of murder, hurting people things like I don't.

Hamsata Mazou 30:57
I didn't mean that.

Jeanine Ikekhua 30:58
What did you mean?

Hamsata Mazou 30:59
even just because, like, you know, like, okay,

Jeanine Ikekhua 31:02
Abuse?

Hamsata Mazou 31:03
Yes, stuff like that. So like, just like, okay, nothing like of them doing but things that had been inflicted on them, which could later lead to them doing those behaviors, potentially. Do you see what I'm saying?

Jeanine Ikekhua 31:15
I feel like if we get them, I feel like I feel like if we get them before they crossed the point of hurting other people. I would bring them on the island. And I would treat them like they would have like their own psychiatrists. There'd be somebody in charge of like pediatric psychiatry,

Alexis Grant 31:36
like mandatory therapy.

Jeanine Ikekhua 31:37
Yeah, like mandatory therapy. But it wouldn't even be like the oh, how are you? Let's drug you up. Like no, like, actual let's talk, you would still live your life. But obviously like for your safe, let's just watch you like, we're not here to hate. We're just your friends. And we're trying to help you, but you'd have a family.

Alexis Grant 31:54
Like isolated?

Hamsata Mazou 31:55
Yeah. Because now you're saying that this person now has a mandatory thing that other people aren't gonna have? So do you think that'll make them feel like, like I said isolate or something?

Jeanine Ikekhua 32:04
I don't think so.

Alexis Grant 32:05
I might make it. That's where I leave it up to them. Like, if you really want to come on this island, you have to accept the fact that you have to go to therapy, so then.

Hamsata Mazou 32:12
for them or for everybody?

Alexis Grant 32:14
No, for the for the Select people. Yes. But also, because of the people I'm bringing on the island, a lot of them would do therapy willingly and are pro therapy. So it shouldn't be a taboo or something that's bad anyways.

Jeanine Ikekhua 32:28
I thought y'all were talking about children.

Alexis Grant 32:32
I'm talking about older kids, because I would adopt, like his 17 year old.

Hamsata Mazou 32:36
Whole age spectrum. As long as you're under the age of 18 years, you're now a kid in this scenario type of thing, right? Because there's so. But I was just saying, I wasn't saying it in a taboo sense. It's just like, if you're, it's just like child thinking, you know, somebody's doing something that you're not doing. It's just gonna cause differentiation and separation. You know what I mean? And that, you know, separation and childhood, it's not a good thing. It's seen as a bad thing. And that kind of can stem from like, bullying or infliction and just causing separation and negativity. Although most thing is a taboo. But you know, like, the social aspect of it from a child's perspective.

Jeanine Ikekhua 33:09
I felt like if you're doing mandatory therapy, I don't think there's anything to be ashamed of like, we would help you understand that there's nothing to be ashamed of. It's just the reality of like, well, yeah, they're not getting mandatory therapy, because they haven't been through what you've been through. And it's not your fault. It never was your fault. You were a child, things happen to you, you weren't actively making them happen to you. They just happen. And now in order to fix or just help deal with what's happened, we're going to give you extra help, because right now you need it doesn't mean that you need a forever. It just means that right now in order for you to be okay, which is the top most priority of this society. We are going to help you there's nothing to be ashamed. Yeah. But you just got to teach him.

Alexis Grant 33:52
And I feel like a lot of that isolation you're talking about does come from the taboo.

Jeanine Ikekhua 33:56
Yes. It's not a taboo over on this island. Yeah. Because therapy.

Alexis Grant 34:00
Yeah. Yeah. And I understand that, like, regardless of the taboo, you might feel a kind of way, just because like you said, it's like something you have to do, but I don't think it would ever get to the point where it became a problem, like within the island, because, you know, there's certain things you do as a kid that you feel a little self conscious about little embarrassed about, right. But like, especially because I'm thinking like, for the kids we're talking about, they tend to be a little older. Like eventually they'll get to the point where they're an adult, and they'll see the benefit in it.

Jeanine Ikekhua 34:28
Oh, yeah, sure.

Hamsata Mazou 34:29
When you guys talk about assimilation earlier and talking about if you can't assimilate, you can't cover some like that. I was gonna say that's like a real life skill that not everybody has being able to assimilate and stuff like that.

Jeanine Ikekhua 34:37
That's a learn, something that you learn.

Hamsata Mazou 34:39
That's right. Exactly. Some people just I feel like

Alexis Grant 34:42
so I might have to give like the people who aren't there with the initial migration over. They might have to come with like greencard experience, and then they have a certain amount of time they can stay there and then after that they get like an official evaluation if they can stay or not get citizenship.

Jeanine Ikekhua 34:56
I mean they're doing it in the US like nobody just comes in like you can be a citizen like, you gotta get your permanent residency, then you got to be there for a couple of years. Every country has.

Hamsata Mazou 35:03
The whole quiz thing is insane, though, because I

Jeanine Ikekhua 35:05
Who knows the American like history from heart

Alexis Grant 35:11
People who like American history, and I like American history. Yo. Like, I know a lot of them like a lot of Americans they like that joint.

Jeanine Ikekhua 35:20
this stuff on like. Like y'all know the stuff on the quizzes.

Alexis Grant 35:23
Yeah. Because, yeah, because

Jeanine Ikekhua 35:25
I think we all had,

Hamsata Mazou 35:27
did y'all help your parents with their?

Jeanine Ikekhua 35:30
I saw my mom's and I was like,

Alexis Grant 35:31
Yeah, I help some. Yeah. But like, I do have friends who could pass that I'm gonna be real, just because that's their niche. They like that stuff. But like, I'm not gonna have that

Hamsata Mazou 35:39
citizen, you know,

Jeanine Ikekhua 35:40
just coming from a different country.

Alexis Grant 35:42
Like, I would have them go through a course, but have like an exam like that. That's history. No, but eventually, I probably would have a course. Because once we get like, let's say, seven generations down, they know nothing about the startup, I would want them to know about the history, but like, to the point, the type of questions that they ask on that exam, it's going to be I wouldn't ask my kind of history based exam, it'd be more be like, like, what are the values? Like, even though they might ask that it's more of like, what are the values? What are the da da not like? Who was the 34th? President? And who did they go up against? Like, I, George Bush? Like, I don't, what are we? I don't even know. I don't know. Like, I don't know. That's a good question I don't know, how I would set up that exam.

Jeanine Ikekhua 36:36
I don't think I would have an exam. I just think I would have like, classes that like are mandatory to attend. But they're not even mandatory in the sense of like, a grade not even like a grade. But well, yeah, maybe like a like a mini thing. But it would be more of like a verbal, because like, let's be realistic. When are you going to need to know all this, like tiny, tiny information like the 34th president? Like when do you need to know that? You need to know like, the basic moral state, like where you like, the location, the importance of this island, why it was created, like where you fit in? We would moreso have classes on like, the history just like the tiny history of like, why you're here where you came from all that little stuff, the origin of the island, and then how so like more on how we can help you achieve your goals in this island. So how, how we can help you assimilate into this island where you're comfortable going in and it doesn't feel like a foreigner just landed, like you feel like okay, I could do this.

Alexis Grant 37:33
Yeah, I think I like that, like a mandatory a mandatory conversational course. But there's no grade or like repercussions attached to it kind of thing. So that you do get the information, but it's not like you need to have it memorized, but you get the information you need. And what sticks, sticks.

Jeanine Ikekhua 37:47
Yeah. And like, if after all day, like nah, this not this not me, you can skedaddle if you want to, but it was nice having you.

Alexis Grant 37:55
So you're gonna have, are you gonna have a policing system? Or not? Or like, call it something else? Or like, you know what I mean? Because let's say something does go awry, or you have somebody you do need kick out, how are we handling this?

Jeanine Ikekhua 38:06
It's going to be I don't know if I call it a policing system, but it'll definitely be something like that. But one thing that I will make sure with like the system, the policing the authority, whoever's doing all of that, they are going to have a good relationship with the community is going to be to the point where if he's rolling up in his official car to go to the neighborhood and check up on people, everybody's like, everybody's like,

Alexis Grant 38:29
Oh my god. Bestie cookies.

Jeanine Ikekhua 38:31
We got cookies if you want it, like, everybody's like, hi, he's coming through guys say hi, in the kitchen. Like, like, it's gonna be a friendly thing. Not he coming through. Oh, my God, y'all Let's hide behind a couch. Not gonna be like that.

Alexis Grant 38:46
That's fair.

Hamsata Mazou 38:48
What? Yeah, I did. But you guys are staring at me. Because

Alexis Grant 38:55
we're supposed to look up at the, what do you think Hamsata?

Hamsata Mazou 38:58
No. Okay, I was yawning. So, like, I couldn't speak because a yawn was occurring, you know? And then when I was about to I realized all eyes are on me. I was like, oh, like, you know, just like, tense. But I was gonna say, I do agree with like, the whole like, you know, friendly aspect. I just also, I just want to make sure they do their job correctly. I don't know. For some reason, I sometimes feel like people and authoritative things. I was like, yes, be friendly. Be nice. Always. 110% also make sure like, people know when they mess up. Like to take you serious. Yes, I still want them to take them serious and know that this is their role. And this is their job. Just so it does keep in a check and balance. But yes, 110% like, please be like friendly. Everybody know that. This is a genuine kind person who has the best interest of everybody at heart. But when they do speak to you take them serious, you know, yeah, because this is a person who's going to be in charge of law and stuff. And I think sometimes that kind of gets lost in like, the balance of this is a friendly person, but this is also an authority figure, you know.

Alexis Grant 40:09
Firefighters that's all I gotta say

Jeanine Ikekhua 40:12
our firefighters, they're gonna have costumes on anytime. Let me stop.

Alexis Grant 40:18
They're mandatory to only wear uniform now.

Hamsata Mazou 40:23
I feel like it's because you're already in a place of like, hurt with firefighters, like you're already at a place of need. Like, I feel like somebody's coming out. Yeah, like they're not, you know, like, you're in a place of wrong and you don't feel like you are necessarily, you know, it's hard to sometimes take somebody seriously if you really see them as like a playful person. Yeah.

Alexis Grant 40:41
Also, I think it's just because of the position we're in just being black and where the policing system stemmed from in America. And it being literally like, and I don't, I don't realize, like a lot, a lot of white people like realize that. Literally, the policing system started from slave catchers. And then they just renamed them. Like, it's the same, almost the exact same symbol and everything. Like it literally just started off as slave catchers. Like there's a long standing history of like, why there's animosity, yeah. long standing history of why there's animosity between the police in the black community.

Jeanine Ikekhua 41:23
America just didn't get it right. What's like, I understand like, I

Alexis Grant 41:28
started a new country the way they did is hard, but also they were already racist beforehand.

Jeanine Ikekhua 41:32
Yeah. Like they literally stole lead from people like, started like that is bound to have some problems and issue, like in the future, like, the slave patrol things. Like, I just, I could see how in their mind, they're like, Okay, the number one enemy is black people. So that's all we gotta worry about. But it's just like, Did you realize that your number one enemies were actually the people down the street? I just thought they didn't think through creating that. Like, they should have created a whole different system for everybody. But like, I get it, because the number one commodity, the number one enemies were black people.

Alexis Grant 42:08
Yeah. And, like, the way they used to have it set up, it was like somebody else did wrong. They would just gang up on them. You know? Yeah. Like a lot of people community gang up like the like, like a white person did wrong. They just ganged up on them.

Jeanine Ikekhua 42:24
Yeah, like they just had like, they will settle their disputes upon their community. Yeah.

Hamsata Mazou 42:28
Would you guys have gangs on your islands?

Alexis Grant 42:31
Define gang

Jeanine Ikekhua 42:33
like spiritual gang?

Alexis Grant 42:35
Um, ideally, no, ideally, there would be no reason to have a gang.

Jeanine Ikekhua 42:40
Yeah, we are in one gang, the gang of the Lord. Let me stop.

Alexis Grant 42:43
like, yeah, there's no, cause there shouldn't have to be a reason where there's a community within the island that needs to protect themselves from other people.

Jeanine Ikekhua 42:56
But yeah, like, we got, you

Alexis Grant 43:01
That would not be incentivized at all.

Jeanine Ikekhua 43:03
I hope there are no minorities on my island. I want everybody to be chill. I see what you're saying. Feel like there will be because like, there's just

Alexis Grant 43:10
There's gonna be minorities, regardless it's whether they're treated with respect or not.

Jeanine Ikekhua 43:13
Yeah, I can't have the most equal amount of everybody.

Hamsata Mazou 43:16
Especially with like, offspring and like stuff like, Yeah,

Jeanine Ikekhua 43:19
I can't control somebody. Right.

Alexis Grant 43:22
That's the one thing because I feel like my islands could start off so mixed. Like, I feel like my island would be the island that like reaches that. Have y'all seen like the picture of like, the person who most people are supposed to look like and like, whatever, many 100 years, because there's so many like mixing of like ethnicities, I feel like my island would reach out very quick. And I just be sad to see the loss in differentiation in cultures.

Hamsata Mazou 43:47
But if you're gonna always have people coming in from like, other. Do you think it'll keep? There's gonna be immigrants? Right?

Alexis Grant 43:56
Yes. Balance? No, but it's an island. So there's only a max number of people I can house and I don't think the immigrants are going to be coming in as fast as the people are going to be breeding.

Jeanine Ikekhua 44:04
Yeah, especially like, Why would you come? Like, where's the island gonna be located? Like, are we going to strategically locate it next to some country that needs like, that we can take more refugees from? Because I don't think somebody's going to come all that way to our island, like they would go to another country that's quite close to them.

Hamsata Mazou 44:21
Right.

Alexis Grant 44:22
So that's the only thing I would like, be sad about and that's the like, I have that, that fear. But I've had those thoughts of like, sometimes what I don't like about over migration in like, tourism, too, is how the cultures kind of lose their definitiveness. And like right now, I still feel like cultures are still pretty definitive down the road. People are going to lose the definition between cultures and I think it's beautiful, like the different particular cultures and their traditions and stuff like that. So the only good thing is if I start this island, I'm gonna be well dead before that happens, they can figure that joint out for themselves, like, you're gonna have to figure that part out. I'm so sorry. Y'all got anything else to say on your island?

Jeanine Ikekhua 45:14
Oh, I know I just said, my island will have a cultural day, instead of like an independence day. So obviously, we'll have like a Founders Day on this day. Boom, this is ours. Like, it's gonna have that little cutie whatever. But like, we're also like, our biggest holidays probably going to be a cultural day.

Hamsata Mazou 45:34
Oh, I had one question for you.

Jeanine Ikekhua 45:37
am I gonna let, go ahead?

Alexis Grant 45:40
Just ask the question. Don't even don't even aside I heard yet. Ask the question.

Hamsata Mazou 45:44
Okay, I was gonna say would you have like, all, like the Greek life come with you too?

Jeanine Ikekhua 45:56
Nah, what

Alexis Grant 45:57
I didn't even think about, That's a great question. Wow, what are you gonna do Jeanine? So is it just AKAs on the island?

Jeanine Ikekhua 46:05
No, because Lauren is the SG rho, so I gotta bring the SG rhos. And then one of my other friends is a delta. So I got to bring the delta.

Alexis Grant 46:15
And at that point, you might as well bring everybody

Jeanine Ikekhua 46:17
Do I though? No shade and like no shade? Yeah. But like, do I though? Yeah.

Hamsata Mazou 46:24
Up to you it's your island.

Jeanine Ikekhua 46:28
And then also what I create a culture where people like started joining. And we would officially have to get like chartered. Get University, the papers and like sign and stuff. So

Alexis Grant 46:40
are you gonna send everybody abroad for college? Are you going to create your own college on the island?

Jeanine Ikekhua 46:43
Oh we're creating our own college. I'm sorry, I don't want you. Why would I want white people standards? I, study abroad, yes. Study abroad? Yes. But we're gonna have like our own university and the school

I think maybe community college for the first two then the other two, go out you know

Yeah I would do, I would do that

Alexis Grant 47:06
Realistically, creating our own college, like, having to get the prestige would be hard.

Hamsata Mazou 47:13
But a community college is very easy. Get your credit stuff, you know, yeah. And, and I feel like you'd be developed enough to have like, your morals and stuff set.

Jeanine Ikekhua 47:20
But you're basing this off of like, there's already an established system. Y'all can do anything y'all want. It's your island, you want a credit, it's gonna be a credit.

Alexis Grant 47:31
It is, but is it accredited to where they want to go out, because I still want them to have the experience of going to other countries living in other places. You see, I'm saying, and it's hard to make that transactional.

Hamsata Mazou 47:41
I still want them to be able to go experience.

Alexis Grant 47:43
Yeah, because we're gonna be like, like, even Barbados, like, IQ wise. That's like one of the smartest, like groups of people, like in the world, like, like, education wise, they have some of the best education. People don't know those colleges. They mean nothing.

Jeanine Ikekhua 48:01
Are we imagining I imagined that they would go abroad to get the experiences, but I'm not, and like they can move out if they want to move is completely fine. But regardless, if you're going to have some type of education, like, you're still gonna have to educate these people in your island. Does that make sense?

Alexis Grant 48:19
Yes, I'm still gonna, Yeah, I think it'd be, the I think it's gonna be the community college thing. And then it might be like to get your degree degree and you want to come back like, you're gonna have to go study abroad, like we might put such a huge focus on study abroad supports, like, we just got to make a certain type of partnerships with countries or something. They can get their degrees like, like

I don't know if they can get abroad works, you know, and you let your people go, you let other people come in? Yeah. People that are coming at you.

Jeanine Ikekhua 48:55
You can do direct or exchange

Alexis Grant 48:56
student exchange. Okay, that's when it switches, but you could just leave, but I don't know if it's even study abroad, because like, I don't think they can get a degree from us. But I think it's way more beneficial if they don't. So I might just say, yes, because then they can take that to other places.

Jeanine Ikekhua 49:14
That's true. But I mean, also, you could just get your community college credit, because if you think about it, like, if they're gonna have to get that degree, then they're gonna have to spend the how many years outside and then they're gonna have to go off with their system. Does that make sense?

Alexis Grant 49:30
Yeah, like, we'll have the community college like Hamsata said, and they can get a two year

Jeanine Ikekhua 49:33
but yeah, you're gonna give them the two year but is your two year gonna be, is their two year gonna be recognized outside, because that's what happened to my mom. Like, she did the entire thing. Like, went to the Masters every year and then come to America. They're like, we don't recognize that so then she had to start from scratch. That's why I'm like, y'all do your two year at the community college but when you get to the real world, and they're like, Oh, we're real world. What do we want to do? They're gonna be like, You're gonna have to start over. You might like you either accredit yours, and then they still do the study abroad. Or they just go to the four years or however many years outside.

Alexis Grant 50:08
I think what we would have to try to do in the beginning and hopefully it can get better as time goes on, is that the countries that we've alliances with we talked to them about their colleges and stuff like that and have it to where our associate's degree and classes are recognized outside of the country.

Jeanine Ikekhua 50:27
Y'all is our island gonna grow. Like, are we going to have to get more land?

Alexis Grant 50:32
I was having. I'm gonna be dead. I'm gonna be good. It's not my problem. I'm dead. I'm dead. I'm dead. Like, isn't that my problem?

Jeanine Ikekhua 50:39
Bro? Where's the waste gonna go? Like all like the polluting the the pee the poop.

Alexis Grant 50:45
Ideally, our stuff is disposable. Because like you, biodegradable just like yeah, that's what I mean biodegradable, renewable, like all that stuff.

Jeanine Ikekhua 50:53
So where the pee pee go goes, like we poop in a jar and like use it for compost or something?

Alexis Grant 50:57
No, we would have a. I mean, we would have a system or systems that do that. That create Yeah, so like, we'd still have a plumbing system, but the plumbing system is going to be used to create fertilizer or whatever. Really good fertilizer.

Hamsata Mazou 51:10
Yeah, like, stuff is good, though.

Alexis Grant 51:13
There's human feces and a lot of fertilizers. They just don't like it's not greatly advertised.

Jeanine Ikekhua 51:18
Yeah, I can imagine why.

Hamsata Mazou 51:21
Imagine with the shit that you eat every day is the shit they take out

Alexis Grant 51:25
If we're gonna take it. We're gonna take it the full buck, you can also fertilize I mean, not fertilize. You can also filter pee.

Hamsata Mazou 51:32
Yeah, I was gonna say you can filter pee. Yeah, yeah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 51:40
Because I'm like regular plumbing system. It literally just goes into like the

Alexis Grant 51:44
wastewater. Yeah no, ours is gonna do to do to do or like something like, or even like, we have like some type of underground turbine or something and all the pee from the society is spinning it or something.

Jeanine Ikekhua 51:58
I cannot imagine being at night and there's a turbine just

Alexis Grant 52:05
like something, get a little extra energy something. Yeah, it's gonna all have to be like, one big cycle. Yeah

Jeanine Ikekhua 52:12
Imma get some engineers. They're gonna figure it out

Hamsata Mazou 52:14
Lexi and her friends. They're gonna figure it out.

Alexis Grant 52:17
We gots to. we're gonna be a great environmental Island. It's gonna be so good.

Jeanine Ikekhua 52:24
They're gonna wanna be us.

Alexis Grant 52:25
They gonna want to be us. That was a nice talk, guys. I can't wait to come to your guys's islands.

Jeanine Ikekhua 52:33
Period

Alexis Grant 52:34
Whoever makes them whoever makes their island first, we're there

Jeanine Ikekhua 52:37
It's not gonna be me. I'll tell you that right now. I'm trying to make me good. First.

Alexis Grant 52:40
Real. What would you guys do in your imaginary Island?

Jeanine Ikekhua 52:43
Imaginary, dang.

Alexis Grant 52:45
I'm sorry. What would you do once you get your island that you will be controlling?

Hamsata Mazou 52:50
if you so choose to control

Jeanine Ikekhua 52:52
you could also go join an island create an, not, yeah join an island

Hamsata Mazou 52:56
Yeah, because not everybody is meant to be makers. Some people just meant to be contributors. And that is still a great position.

Jeanine Ikekhua 53:05
Just as important. Go follow us

Alexis Grant 53:08
on what?

Jeanine Ikekhua 53:09
Instagram

Hamsata Mazou 53:11
and you can also follow the YouTube sorry. Videos. So we do teasers on Instagram. And the username is on black dot podcast, on black dot pockets on black, YouTube we just on black. Honestly type in one of our names to find this, full name. Go Jeanine, do the little sound wave thing you like some visual, on the YouTube, but yeah. Purr purr purr.

Alexis Grant 53:47
Okay, bye guys

Practice Wknc

Jeanine Ikekhua 54:13
because y'all gonna get this down pat.

Alexis Grant 54:16
I think I pretty much got it.

Hamsata Mazou 54:19
let's share. Sharing a got. Uh, rant. Hummus. Spinach artichoke.

Jeanine Ikekhua 54:27
That sounds disgust, let me stop.

Hamsata Mazou 54:30
will be good with a carrot but I kind of really

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