On Dreams and Nightmares.

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In this episode, the On Black hosts discuss everything spooky including Halloween and their dreams and nightmares.

Alexis Grant 0:00
Hi, I'm Alexis.

Hamsata Mazou 0:01
And I'm Hamsata.

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:01
And I'm Jeanine. And you're listening to WKNC Ada point one FM HD-1 radio

Alexis Grant 0:15
Okay, welcome back everybody. Today we're all very mellow. Well, two of us are very mellow. Um, Hamsata has energy. We're, you know, something light. Something light today, we're just gonna talk about Spooky Scary Skeletons stuff. You know, Halloween is around the corner October. Be scared of us. I mean, I'll let you decide.

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:41
Ooh, not be scared.

Alexis Grant 0:44
Do y'all like scary movies? No,

Hamsata Mazou 0:47
not particularly. Oh, wow.

Alexis Grant 0:49
Honestly, this is the biggest room I've been in if people don't like scary movies, because I'm not. I like thrillers, but I don't like whores. I can't handle or do for years. What's to say? thrillers? thrillers are more jumpscares horrors is more of that like psychological? No, that that can be a psychological thriller like that's, yeah, horror is more of like gruesome in like blood gore. Like, it's more gore. I don't like those. Yeah, so like, I can do thrillers thrillers or like, you know, hush. was hush hush is the movie where it's like the woman and she's death. And then the guy like a guy comes to like killer in her house in the woods. So it's all jumpscares on stuttered.

Hamsata Mazou 1:29
So let's that all your first horror movie I can come to mind is probably a bad example. But it What category would that go in?

Alexis Grant 1:36
That might be Thriller Horror, because you know a lot of movies are Thriller Horror, okay. They're like thriller, because they're not that scary. Yeah, like some are horror though. And it's like, it's not a lot of jumpscares and stuff. It's just that gruesome scary. Like, you know what I mean?

Jeanine Ikekhua 1:49
No, but yeah,

Unknown Speaker 1:50
I'm assuming is it like a lot more like more?

Alexis Grant 1:53
Like, demonic possession? Is Weegee board type of that's more horrible, bloody stuff dripping

Hamsata Mazou 2:02
off to get like bloody like very graphic. That's the rest. Okay. Yeah, it's

Alexis Grant 2:06
graphic. It's like gore like dark. Versus versus just jumpscares

Hamsata Mazou 2:11
like those would mess me up. Sci Fi. Yeah, other side. Yeah, I

Alexis Grant 2:16
like thrillers leave happy at night. Exactly. Like thriller still beginning to me. I can handle the horror, especially because I don't do well with demonic possession stuff. I can't let that be the last thing I watch before I go to sleep, or I will dream about it. Oh, no, thank

Jeanine Ikekhua 2:31
you. Is that gonna happen to you? I just I won't go to sleep. Like I will be like, freaking out. Like, yeah,

Hamsata Mazou 2:39
I'll probably go to sleep. I would be honest with y'all. asleep, calm, sleep long, calm, regrowth of my state. But also I feel like I just forget things. So I'll watch it back. Oh,

Alexis Grant 2:48
no, yeah, I'm not gonna forget it.

Jeanine Ikekhua 2:50
I watch even three days. And I'm still scared. No, really.

Alexis Grant 2:53
I watched called not levels not elevated the platform. Have you seen the platform? No. That's one of the most scary movies. It's not scary. It's not not. But this one. It's basically this guy like goes into the it's like taking place in the future. There's basically all these floors and there's a platform of food that goes down to all the floors. And the thing is, it gets very savage because the food runs out. By the time it gets to the lower floors. Makes sense. So it's a lot of people fighting killing cannibalism get to the bottom, I guess. No, they're stuck on the floor. It's like a prison system. Oh, so it's two people per floor. And the platform moves down a floor every like two minutes or whatever. And like passes down the food. But basically the whole actually, I'm not gonna say the plot twist. Y'all go watch the platform, but I watched it. And there's a lot of Yeah, it is very interesting. But there's a lot of like, cannibalism and like murder and like, a lot of

Hamsata Mazou 3:49
I would have to watch that with somebody with

Alexis Grant 3:52
a lot of us sides not graphic. It's just that like people like there's no food. So they jump down the platform and like, they just kill themselves. Yeah. And then I watched that movie. And I literally had a dream that I was on a different floor of the platform every day for a week straight and it was freaking me out because the whole thing is you only stay on one floor for a month and you switch floors and it's random.

Hamsata Mazou 4:15
So you could go up high or down. I mean, let's think about it this way. If you're on the bottom floor at least you know the only way you could go is up

Alexis Grant 4:23
no matter if you're on the bottom or you're dead there's no food get into

Jeanine Ikekhua 4:26
your game. That's the end of that.

Alexis Grant 4:31
Like yeah, so yeah, but I literally had nightmares every single day for a week straight that I was on a different floor each time so some some nights were okay for me. Other nights I was literally fighting for my life and my dreams.

Unknown Speaker 4:42
Oh no, don't worry.

Alexis Grant 4:45
I couldn't even tell you I don't know but I'm such as you're over it. Yeah, I don't have those dreams. Go away. I'm just Yeah, I'm just such a heavy visual person. My dreams are very like realistic and like I don't No, that was a lot for me like growing up I had hella nightmares as a kid.

Hamsata Mazou 5:04
See I was like the opposite I feel like I rarely dream and or even if I dream I forget about them within like the first half of two minutes I'm awake know that in my head. I never dream

Jeanine Ikekhua 5:14
about him sada is Masada is in her own world. And I really like it. I really appreciate it. Because sometimes, like, I'm not sure if you know what's going on. But other times, I'm just like, wow, like you're such a piece. I think because you're in your own world has been like that for you. I really do.

Unknown Speaker 5:38
I appreciate that. But

Jeanine Ikekhua 5:39
yeah, back to nightmares. What are you saying? She don't be having no.

Um, I have the same nightmares over and over again. It's just It's nobody laughs If y'all laugh

Alexis Grant 5:55
I'm not gonna laugh. I think dreams very serious. I

Hamsata Mazou 5:57
wouldn't I'm not gonna lie. I think dreams are reflection, you know of like your subconscious and stuff.

Jeanine Ikekhua 6:02
I hope this one don't say much about me. Oh, um, it's about Barney. Okay, you know how like, like Nickelodeon and like Cartoon Network and like all these like children's shows used to have those episodes where like, everybody wasn't like one episode like the crossovers are crossovers. So I had one in my head and it was like Barney Dora the Explorer boots. Little Red Riding Hood. And the dream was that little red riding hood boots and Dora snuck into my apartment. We had like a house in London

Alexis Grant 6:30
where they cards are they cartoons in the stream? Are they real? Yeah,

Jeanine Ikekhua 6:33
that would I mean, I've never thought about that. I just always pictured us cartoons because they've always been cartoon. Yeah, okay. Okay. They were cartoons. Okay, I'm making them real people makes even more scary. Yeah, but they were cartoons and they snuck into my my apartment and they stuck to my mom's room and they came through the window, even though the door was wide open, but we're not gonna discuss that. They just kind of came through the window, and they cut off my mom's leg. And they took my mom's leg with them and wow window, and that I didn't know what was happening. And then I woke up and I saw my mom and she was like, bleeding to death. And like, then like, a couple months after I had woken up when I was like trying to say what was going on? She died. And then like boots, Diego Sandy what her name Dora Dora to Sandy. whatever her name is. They were all like outside the window and they were just like looking at me. And then that's creepy.

Alexis Grant 7:22
That's creepy as hell.

Jeanine Ikekhua 7:24
I had to be whisked off away by like my mom's family friend. It won't happen that like every couple of years.

Alexis Grant 7:31
We're having a Barney though. You start with Barney and Barney never popped up again.

Jeanine Ikekhua 7:34
Oh, honestly, dream be weird. Like things just don't make

Alexis Grant 7:37
sense. There's the cartoon character circle out. Is that why? Oh, it's always the door is always there.

Jeanine Ikekhua 7:44
Dora Little Red Riding Hood and boots are always there.

Hamsata Mazou 7:48
Well, you didn't lose me. I feel like I was gonna say this. You got me when you said your mom.

Jeanine Ikekhua 7:54
Oh, yeah, that's like the weirdest part of things like where the cartoon characters come from and then like your mom,

Alexis Grant 7:58
no, it's okay. I understand because I used to have this. It was like, reoccurring but one day I got past like the reoccurring part. I literally woke up screaming. And basically I was like in my house in Atlanta. And my parents like, bedroom is down the hall for me. And on the all the way opposite side of the hall is me my sister's room. And I was like, I left my room. And I can't remember I would look out my window. And I realized that our house was floating on like a wooden platform in the middle of the ocean. And I was just so surprised. I was trying to figure out what was going on. And when I did that, I saw a pirate ship heading our way. This is a throwback to that being no pirates like we're coming on our way. So I went to go get my sister and I can't remember what happened. My sister and I haven't this dream in a while. I can't remember I was carrying her she was sleep or I couldn't. I couldn't wake her up. I kept trying to wake her up but she wouldn't wake up. So now I can hear the pirates downstairs like trying to bang through the door. And I'm freaking out because I'm like the pirates are here to kill us like they made it very blatantly clear. They're here to like kilos. So I'm running to my parents room. I think this was a fear of what one of my parents would lock their door.

Unknown Speaker 9:18
Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, um,

Alexis Grant 9:23
I was a kid. I know. I know. But I was like ran to my parents to my parents door and I was like banging on it I was like Mom Dad pleasers pirates like let me in like they're gonna get me nessa like it was just due to due to this. I'm just hearing No, they were dead sleep because this was like in the dream. It was already like three in the morning. Like everyone's slump. I just happen to wake up because I used to wake up in the middle of night all the time naturally. So I'm over here don't do don't do like crying on the floor begging for them. Like I'm hearing them coming up the stairs. I freaked out I fell out of my bed screaming that day. Was your bed Hi. No but I have falling off of high beds before and I have hit my head on the way down before. Oh no. Because I used to move a lot in my dreams. Like I would wake up I'd be like half on the bed upside down or covers like on the other side of the room making absolutely no kind of sense. Because I'm a slob at least sleeper.

Jeanine Ikekhua 10:21
Nightmares are weird. I don't know what the purpose of them is. I guess like they just happen to your fears and they're like exaggerated

Alexis Grant 10:27
Yeah, you agree with that? A lot of dreams they be like the last few things that you're thinking about. So I'm better yes, I'm way better now I like because even as a kid I used to lucid dream I was I didn't know till I got like halfway through high school that people don't lucid dream. I thought everybody when you're

Jeanine Ikekhua 10:43
dreaming. I don't even dream in general if you already said nevermind. Lucid Dream

Alexis Grant 10:47
is when you're in control and you're aware. So I used to do that all the time. As a kid I had no idea other people couldn't do that. Give an exam because I'm very like you're in your dream and you know to dream. So you can rewind Fast Forward say What do whatever you want. I would fly in some of my dreams just because I felt like flying like what? I didn't know people didn't like could I thought everybody was having lucid dreams and excessive nightmares. They go I thought everybody was having that experience I didn't like the longer I live the more I know people who'd like or like you who don't dream like one of my roommates. She rarely ever dreams. I did you recently though. Naps.

Hamsata Mazou 11:25
I really have

Alexis Grant 11:26
a dream in my neck. I take a 15 minute nap, I can have up to three dreams and that 15 minute nap in general

Hamsata Mazou 11:31
to us. I'm not an opera

Jeanine Ikekhua 11:32
while I'm asleep. I'm a Napper. But like it turns into a sleep. Because I'd

Alexis Grant 11:37
be taking naps and don't like I don't force myself to wake up. I just wake up everything. It's like three days later, I'm like, not three days, it'd be like an hour.

Hamsata Mazou 11:44
Because you might be telling me I'll be like, No, I wish I was on your plane for like, I would love to be able to take a nap real quick, get energized and move on through my day with that energy. But I think for me, for the most part, my energy stays the same the entire day, like wherever it's at. It's like that. Like it doesn't remind us all it doesn't really deteriorate that much. So unless something happens, like it's usually an outside source that impacts my energy rather than an internal thing, if that makes sense.

Jeanine Ikekhua 12:13
I'll be faking it all the time. So

Hamsata Mazou 12:17
if I don't love God, no, it's not

Jeanine Ikekhua 12:19
even time. It's just like you get trained into it, but also from the perspective of an immigrant. So that kind of adds context to it. But yeah, Murano is when I'm by myself, I'm I feel like I'm mellow most of the time. Just keep an

Alexis Grant 12:32
eye. I feel like I'm very all over the place.

Jeanine Ikekhua 12:35
I feel like you are some days I'm like, we'll see how she is today. You on the other hand, I know for a fact what I'm gonna get when I see you.

Hamsata Mazou 12:46
Okay, I'm consistent. Yeah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 12:49
Yeah. And I can tell from like the way you you were on you, if that makes sense. Oh, yeah, I agree. Yeah, you I gotta see me. I gotta give it to you. Do you see what you see?

Hamsata Mazou 12:59
Yeah. Yeah, I find you always the same.

Alexis Grant 13:03
I'm the same, but I feel like my energy levels change. I felt like but the personality stays the same.

Hamsata Mazou 13:11
But like your energy levels over a time period are the same, at least for me. I feel like there's a certain type of like, oh, energies in this year in this energy segment for this like phases? Yeah. Got you. Yeah, like, recently, you're more on like your mellow. You're more like, tuned into your things. Like you're more like serious about things. Versus like, I guess last semester, I feel like you were a little, a little bit of place. Yeah,

Jeanine Ikekhua 13:34
just growing. Like I literally think that I've, I feel like I've seen her mature and like certain ways. Like, now, I appreciate y'all. And I will always appreciate y'all for doing this. And for letting me be part of this.

Alexis Grant 13:52
I like to say here,

Jeanine Ikekhua 13:54
doing on black versus this semester, you've definitely been on top of your stuff more. Like, I feel like I've had to contact you less on an individual basis to figure out what's going on.

Alexis Grant 14:08
I thought you're gonna say because me and Homosassa used to be the ones who were thinking like, eight months. I mean, more down and I'm Yeah. And I'm back to like, look at the next couple of weeks. Yeah, I

Jeanine Ikekhua 14:19
feel like actually not forgetting the mature part. I feel like you're down on my you're coming more to my level of like, guys, what's going on right now. You on the other hand,

Alexis Grant 14:27
but we need you know,

Jeanine Ikekhua 14:29
we need it like you're losing like we just had a meeting and I was about to lose my mobile home solder because, I mean, unless you're trying to figure out what's going on the next two days. Um, so I was like, Hey, I'm only How do you feel about that? I'm like, up real quick, but it's like, I appreciate it because like, I definitely think that I want to how do we get from this time? That's okay. Um, I definitely feel like I couldn't be 110 a little bit too.

Hamsata Mazou 14:55
Like, rigid guys.

Jeanine Ikekhua 14:57
Yeah, like I'm very like, Okay, let's get it done. I want to gotta hear or like, because like you're like, life. Like that's why your name is you're just so adorable. Like you're just like, like if I could adopt a child.

Alexis Grant 15:16
Wow, that's a high honor. Yeah, that's a really high on I

Jeanine Ikekhua 15:20
have a hard time with it but I would volunteer.

Alexis Grant 15:22
That's actually I'm gonna stop crying What? That's beautiful

Hamsata Mazou 15:26
it really is. I don't ever gotten a call like that like I really appreciate it

Jeanine Ikekhua 15:30
be a good child like you're so adorable. Yeah, you stressed me out though but

Alexis Grant 15:35
on that's your seed Sure, thank you. Janine was like, Oh, I was gonna ask Do your families believe in prophetic? Help me I have prophetic Prophet, Prophet prophecies prophecy like yeah, prophetic dream. I know what you mean. Yeah, but prophecy revealing dream. Prophetic, prophetic.

Hamsata Mazou 16:01
I think that's the word to be on is. But I just thought it might sound weird because we don't use it too often.

Alexis Grant 16:07
I use it enough. But I don't know why I'm not Oh, like, I believe in those. I didn't do. I've had some experiences personally. Which probably nightmares. No profit. No. Like, the dreams revealed the future.

Unknown Speaker 16:27
Not quite not great.

Hamsata Mazou 16:30
Okay. Pause. Okay. Rewind, a little rewind, less define prophetic, prophetic, prophetic

Alexis Grant 16:38
dreams that hold prophecy in the sense of that they tell the future. Okay,

Hamsata Mazou 16:42
that's what I was assuming. But I just wanted you to find it to make sure I'm on the same page. Yeah. Okay. Do you play the future?

Jeanine Ikekhua 16:47
Well, I would include like warnings and oh, yeah,

Alexis Grant 16:50
for sure. When I said yeah, not when I say tell the future. I don't mean blatantly it can be through symbolism, or like, because I have had, like certain nightmares that I've realized in the past, like five years, if I have a nightmare that wakes me up, something bad's gonna happen. Oh, Maru, I'm nervous. Yeah, like because I have nightmares. So consistently. Normally, I just dug through them. But like, if a nightmare is bad enough to where I wake up, I normally wake up and I'm like, sweating or shaking. Sometimes I'm crying and I didn't know like, freaked out. Like we'll stay up. After that. I can't go back to sleep. Yeah, like they're bad. But normally something like really bad happens after those dreams,

Jeanine Ikekhua 17:33
see, I don't have those. But I feel like my nightmares like reveal what my biggest fears are. Like, I always like mine is always about death, because I'll be going to the extreme. My most. My real current one is like the death of my mom. And then my most recent one was the death of my boyfriend. So I just felt like it just tells him what's my biggest fear and what I need to like stop being dramatical

Alexis Grant 17:55
See, mom be like, crazy man. I've had like, nightmares where it's been like torture shows where like, my whole family got kidnapped, and I had to pick who to shoot or that whole drama scene. And I've had ones where I've been stuck in like devilish fun houses. And like I was like, trying to escape through air vents and there's stuff chasing me or like, every time I dropped in

Jeanine Ikekhua 18:17
to get through life, you make it a whole series of

Alexis Grant 18:21
like, like my last. The one that was really really bad. Not the last one I woke up from but the second to last one I woke up from basically, you know, like the movie us. I haven't actually seen it. I've just seen clips and I know what it's about.

Hamsata Mazou 18:35
I just had a screening of it like,

Alexis Grant 18:36
yeah, I didn't want I can't handle it. Because I know how because that's horror to me.

Hamsata Mazou 18:40
I don't know which one I watched. I know there's like two

Alexis Grant 18:43
There's us and there's them and then there's another one oh, there's it them. I didn't know about things so I'm I'm making things up.

Hamsata Mazou 18:49
I feel like

Jeanine Ikekhua 18:52
there's only released us know, isn't them.

Alexis Grant 18:57
I thought there was a them.

Hamsata Mazou 18:58
But there's something else. It's the one with the two families.

Alexis Grant 19:02
And they're the same. Yeah. Is there us?

Hamsata Mazou 19:05
That's us? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 19:07
That's okay.

Hamsata Mazou 19:08
I've seen another one that the second placement which was that one isn't that them? It wasn't them? I don't think it's called them is it called them it's

Alexis Grant 19:16
another one word or really got me. But anyways, the US one with the double demonic families, whatever. I had basically nightmares about that. But I was the only one left like the rest of my family got switched out. I was I know when I was like family got replaced. They were all demonic. I had to kill my sister had to kill my dad killed my mom. When I went to kill myself. I stabbed myself but I didn't die and it kept coming after me. So I was huddled up in a corner by the stairs repeatedly stabbing, like my version of myself and it wasn't dying. And that's when I genuinely started freaking out because I was already scared. Yeah, but everybody else I had killed died. I'm like I'm stabbing them with like a metal pointed like pole. Like they're getting disfigured and they're coming after my face and stuff like that.

Jeanine Ikekhua 20:00
Quick question. You believe in God real quick? Yeah. If you pray, you know, he should help you with these things.

Alexis Grant 20:06
Oh, yeah, no, I had a whole prayer session after this because that next day I got in my car accident. That's what I'm trying. That's the lead up.

Jeanine Ikekhua 20:13
That's really scaring me right now.

Alexis Grant 20:15
Like when I have night, because I woke up from that nightmare. I was freaked out that next day, I got in my really, really bad car accident.

Jeanine Ikekhua 20:21
I wouldn't leave my house, but then it's like, if you don't leave your house, is something else gonna happen?

Alexis Grant 20:25
Yes. It doesn't matter. Like something. It's just how prepared my house where I am.

Jeanine Ikekhua 20:30
I guess it's nice that God gave you a warning, but at the same time, like, Can we just not do that?

Alexis Grant 20:34
Can this just not having been like, please? Yeah, and there was like some other little warrant. I don't know. There's some other really random words. I told. No, this was afterwards after me. And my first boyfriend had broken up. He had texted me like, this was like a week or two before the car accident and asked me if I was okay. And I was like, yeah, why? And he was like, I just saw somebody in a car accident. They had the same car as you loves

Jeanine Ikekhua 20:55
really deep. Oh, where are you? So

Hamsata Mazou 20:57
how do you carry all that? Like, I'm still not over with all that you said? Like,

Alexis Grant 21:03
man that's

Jeanine Ikekhua 21:05
after? That's what you say? Like somewhat like, Yeah, cuz

Alexis Grant 21:08
after. I'm like, some of the nightmares are frequent, the waking up, nightmares are not waking up nightmares. Those are the ones that I know. Something bad's gonna happen often because I thought you might I'm thinking like every other week. No, because anytime it's bad, it's like bad. So it's not that often every like few months. And I wouldn't even say that often. Like once a year. Yeah. It's not that bad. Now the nightmares. It fluctuates. I can go a whole month and a half with nightmares and then have no nightmares for a little bit. But like when I was a kid, like the nightmares were every day. Like, I can't think of one good dream I had as a kid. It was always memorable that it was yeah, I remember a lot of my dreams. That's

Jeanine Ikekhua 21:52
it. No, I agree. I don't remember any of my dreams. The one that a lot of people don't

Alexis Grant 21:57
but from Barney.

Jeanine Ikekhua 21:59
Wait, go ahead. Go ahead.

Hamsata Mazou 22:03
The one that I had a while ago. Yeah, those are only two dreams. I can't really remember everything else is gone. Like I have a journal sometimes. Alright, and when I wake up remember gene I'll let y'all listen to

Alexis Grant 22:12
some of my voice memos from middle school. Some of my dreams. Oh my gosh, like literally because I used to start I started recording because Middle School is when a lot of my dreams because not all the prophetic dreams I have are bad. Some of them are really small detailed things that just happen. Like conference. Like there's been times I dreamt I like sat down and had a conversation with this person. I'm like, I never talked to them. And then like a year later, I'll be having that same conversation. It's so cool. So like So little things like

Jeanine Ikekhua 22:35
that. It's like I feel like I really wish not saying that God I don't want it like you definitely control my life period. The same time like to just like have little signs of like, like, I got you or like you're gonna be

Alexis Grant 22:48
yeah, like I just I wish I had like I was better at documenting it because sometimes I feel like some people there's like hesitant about what I'm saying. But it's just like I can't cry i can't i i just can't write down every single dream I have because I do have a lot of dreams and most of them are have a blue you know what I mean? Like I can't sit here and write every single dream that because they're very detailed and I have good memory of my dreams. Like some of those voicemails

Jeanine Ikekhua 23:12
and like oh you're just I wish I did

Alexis Grant 23:16
yeah, so that was voice memos are over an hour though. I don't have an hour every morning to talk about my dreams kind of out for a dream because I remember my some of my dreams go cost spans of years.

Unknown Speaker 23:25
Oh, sorry.

Hamsata Mazou 23:29
For like, what, like eight hours. It makes sense for a dream to live.

Alexis Grant 23:32
It can be a three hour nap and I could have a whole four months happen in that dream. So like the time just doesn't add up. So I just can't sit there and I want to I put down every detail. Like there's this building this boutique that keeps showing up in my dreams and it shows up in different dreams. You won't

Jeanine Ikekhua 23:48
be a retailer.

Hamsata Mazou 23:50
I think I don't even think it means

Jeanine Ikekhua 23:53
question. Let's start there. I'm

Alexis Grant 23:57
I don't know there's been a few things I've thought of. Sometimes I Oh, okay. What do you know you What do you think? What do you think?

Jeanine Ikekhua 24:08
What's it called? Remember when she was talking about? Like traveling all over the world? Her little suitcase a little janky suitcase

Alexis Grant 24:16
Oh, you think is one of the stores. I'm gonna run? Yeah, I've thought about that. Just

Jeanine Ikekhua 24:19
like you would work at. Oh, like

Unknown Speaker 24:23
it's crazy, though.

Jeanine Ikekhua 24:24
Oh, here we go. I haven't

Alexis Grant 24:26
seen the store before. But there's one image of the side of the aisle because the store is the corner store. It's like a boutique corner store. There's one side of the store that I can remember like what the window on the inside look like. And there's a store here near in Raleigh. And I just happen to look at it outside the car and it looked almost identical to the one of my dream and that was tripping me up alongside because that's like that store has been showing up in my dreams for years.

Hamsata Mazou 24:50
Oh my god, maybe you're meant to be a rally guy. Maybe

Alexis Grant 24:54
I don't think it's it because I'm pretty sure my dream it's in Europe.

Hamsata Mazou 24:57
Okay, maybe show you you're going on the right path. At least, maybe

Jeanine Ikekhua 25:01
I don't have dreams but I have deja vu. Like if I have deja vu I'm not sure. I don't just like happened once I have it three times. And it'd be like, if I'm having it three times that I remember being here three times. I'm supposed to be here. I find that could be I can see the store.

Alexis Grant 25:15
But I'm pretty sure because there's a lake near the store. So I think it might be in like Italy or Venice or something like that.

Jeanine Ikekhua 25:20
I thought because I can see what like, I mean, like a river into store. I feel like collect vintage things and make you look new, like

Alexis Grant 25:30
antique or

Unknown Speaker 25:32
RAM over harbor. Oh,

Alexis Grant 25:36
I know what I wanted to ask him. I wanted to ask them to jump. Me and Janine already made faces but you were distracted, which also kind of plays into our answer here. Who do you think would get killed first in a horror film?

Jeanine Ikekhua 25:51
I mean, I'll be nine out of the three. Yeah.

Alexis Grant 25:55
Hate to hate for us to gang up on you.

Unknown Speaker 26:00
Okay, let's you explanations but when I

Alexis Grant 26:03
first asked the question, you were the only one who didn't respond and we were both looking at you and you didn't even notice I'm not gonna say that kind of reinforced it if we're going to be quite frank,

Jeanine Ikekhua 26:13
I keep it above what you know. I'm okay

Hamsata Mazou 26:23
Realistically speaking, I don't know what I feel like you guys haven't seen you in a situation where I need a fight for my life during my life because I have a side which will occur within me I think I've never been actually in danger for me to be like Oh, but I definitely flick a switch will occur like how I am not and now truthfully the way I think of things right now is that nothing is finite. Nothing is gonna like hurt me so I really play like willy nilly like a game to be honest. But that's also why I feel like in a horror film, you'd get killed first, but like as long as in my head I know this is a dangerous situation I need to take seriously a switch will occur but consider

Alexis Grant 27:03
don't think of it this is real think of this in a horror movie. And what I

Hamsata Mazou 27:07
know a movie three Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, I totally will still be the first one to die but I was I easily is what I'm trying to say. Like I feel like I'm thinking like the door like to put up a gunfight day, right? No, because sometimes I do. Let's not get into that. Anyways,

Alexis Grant 27:32
I'm not about to expose you.

Hamsata Mazou 27:35
As I know that this is a real like life or death situation of switch is gonna occur and I'm gonna actually you know, do a little fight.

Alexis Grant 27:43
We think we'll die second. Janine

Hamsata Mazou 27:44
second out of the two. Yeah, actually, you don't I think it's a tie personally. Like I feel like yeah, both have good fighting fences. I don't think anyone's above the other.

Alexis Grant 27:54
Be like, a killer. You know, I

Hamsata Mazou 27:56
agree. I think you guys have strengths in different departments, but they're good strengths, if that makes sense.

Jeanine Ikekhua 28:01
You know what I'll say? I think we'd all live and why? Why? Because I would go into mother instinct and I would drag the life out of all of y'all like I'm sorry. Um you Alexei you're gonna wander off

you heard him go out of hand. I'm gonna be like me it lets you do a mom and dad and we leave that's what it's giving nobody's dying on my watch me it looks you're doing mom and dad.

Unknown Speaker 28:29
Okay, that works.

Alexis Grant 28:32
Like if I live right because when you live

Jeanine Ikekhua 28:35
but if it's every man for themselves, I really don't know. I really don't I feel like it depends on the type of killer Okay, let's let's say the killer now. Okay, okay if it's Barney or I'm out

Unknown Speaker 28:48
day I

Alexis Grant 28:51
actually scares you. Do you know what you guys is? Like? fear responses? Like are you fight flight or?

Hamsata Mazou 28:57
No? Just talking about like, I have no clue. Like, I don't think I've actually been fully

Alexis Grant 29:02
I exhibit two of them. Which ones fight if it's close proximity. If I get a few somebody scares me and they're like, really close to me. My initial instinct is to start hitting.

Jeanine Ikekhua 29:13
Oh, no, I agree. Because when people jump scare me, I don't like Like, no people like fall back. Ah, I like hit. Like hitting the front.

Hamsata Mazou 29:23
Yeah. And it's like, I'm not a reactionary person.

Alexis Grant 29:27
So would you be stuck because some people get paralyzed like fear? parallelization stop.

Hamsata Mazou 29:30
I don't know about stuck. I feel like I definitely would move because when things happen, I'm like, oh, Fletcher.

Alexis Grant 29:37
I'm a heavy foot.

Hamsata Mazou 29:39
I don't think I've ever called like me as a person. I don't think I'm like ever still. So I don't see myself being paralyzed. That's like very weird for me to do.

Jeanine Ikekhua 29:46
I think I think I would depend on the color. I think I'd be paralyzed. I think I'll just sit there and be like, I'm not playing your game, but you can go ahead. Wow, I think I would just don't ever be like,

Hamsata Mazou 29:58
but then I feel like I still know how recognize a situation I'm gonna give me a little stick and start fighting scratch just little little steps I've said unless I know the situation I'm not a React off rip unless I like get a consensus. Let's let's state the killer.

Jeanine Ikekhua 30:13
What what is

Alexis Grant 30:14
what? What type of killer? I wish I've seen hers because I want to set the hush killer. He's like a man with a crossbow. But he also has hand to hand combat. What

Hamsata Mazou 30:25
do you use little baskets to bring up a killer? What do you what color do you have in mind? Like most of that

Alexis Grant 30:29
goes to like, oh, Okey, dokey. Here's the thing, I think because Chucky we all live in. I don't care. I mean, real

Jeanine Ikekhua 30:38
quick, and he will just fold.

Hamsata Mazou 30:40
I see I watched Chucky before but I don't remember the plot at all. And I want

Alexis Grant 30:43
to I don't want that man small.

Hamsata Mazou 30:47
I've ever used the dough. Like I know what he looked like bones. But he was I don't remember.

Alexis Grant 30:51
I don't remember either, bro. I was laughing the whole time to check it. I was watching with my friend and I could not breathe. Chucky was the funniest movie in

Unknown Speaker 30:57
Ghostbusters. I watched that too. I don't know. If it's ghost.

Jeanine Ikekhua 31:03
Writing, it's the ghost the parents. I honestly,

Unknown Speaker 31:06
don't think you can fight those either.

Alexis Grant 31:09
I actually might freeze that might make me freeze. Honestly. I think if there was free, yeah, me too. I would literally fall to my like, and I would just pray that like, it don't hurt and I'm not aware of it. Like it's fine. If it happened. Just I don't want to be aware. Don't make me aware of anything that happens next. I think I would run and pray. I don't even think I would run because I'd be like they're literally supernatural. What is my running good to do? Unless there's a church near me.

Hamsata Mazou 31:34
I feel like I'm cool. I'll call my mom and be like, hey, what do I do?

Alexis Grant 31:38
I ain't got no holy water in my house and God.

Hamsata Mazou 31:44
But like, you know, there is no holy water

Jeanine Ikekhua 31:47
and extreme stuff. I wouldn't call my mom and be like, no questions. Let's pray together. And we have no facts that to you except like the more people that pray facts on the back home.

Hamsata Mazou 31:57
I'm calling my mom to call back home. And like get this pressed. I run in a

Jeanine Ikekhua 32:02
given group FaceTime, let's go. No, I

Alexis Grant 32:03
don't even think I would make it there. I think I would just freeze and I've just dropped

Jeanine Ikekhua 32:07
that a little because think about it like,

Alexis Grant 32:09
Bro. Um, so to think about it is literally a spirit, a spirit, a demonic entity.

Hamsata Mazou 32:18
Okay, what's the nice one our bad? is bad.

Alexis Grant 32:24
Man's just

Unknown Speaker 32:26
pause. Actually, I really look at him and go. No, I think that's exactly. And then if you don't kill me, I slowly go get my foot. I don't think I could even make

Jeanine Ikekhua 32:38
it I'd be too afraid to move. Now. This is the thing we're sitting right here. Okay. And a demonic entity. I'm talking like demonic like straight up from the pits of hell. Okay. Yeah. Like my seeing through the window. It peaks

Alexis Grant 32:52
and then like, moves away and then we're like, what was that? What does that and then we just my face in this way and my face and away from the windows. Okay, so I'm gonna do is I'm gonna keep acting natural grabbed my phone and call the police. And

Jeanine Ikekhua 33:04
I guess more people I guess more

Alexis Grant 33:05
something's gonna happen. Something. I'm gonna start calling and texting people. But I'm gonna keep it natural because I haven't been scared enough because I haven't seen them. The ones

Jeanine Ikekhua 33:15
that I hate is demonic possession.

Hamsata Mazou 33:18
Imagine getting possessed.

Alexis Grant 33:19
Why would she say I knew she was about to sit? Why would you say that to us? Sorry. Yeah, to fear that actually, the last time I had a really bad nightmare. I was like, if I could.

Hamsata Mazou 33:29
What does it feel like to be possessed? Like, do you

Jeanine Ikekhua 33:35
have sleep paralysis? Know what it is? Have you? I've had that and I've had it multiple times.

Alexis Grant 33:40
I'm too afraid of that. I'm scared. You're at it. No, I'm scared. I'm too hyper. I listen where you're stuck. Like you're awake. Well, are you always awake?

Jeanine Ikekhua 33:50
Let me it's like so pretty much like so from your paralyze

Alexis Grant 33:55
your parallel. That's where the paralysis part comes in. I

Hamsata Mazou 33:58
got that part. But like, I had to make sure.

Jeanine Ikekhua 34:02
Like you're awake, but you're not in control of your body that you can see what's going on. But you can't scream you can't call for help. You can't move your body and there's like for me when I have mine. I haven't had an affair

Alexis Grant 34:12
a long time. Do you get sleep paralysis demons?

Jeanine Ikekhua 34:15
No, I don't. Okay, but it just feels like like the one that I can vividly remember. I was in my old house in Florida. I know the exact address. I'm not gonna say I was in my own house in Florida and my apartment and I was in my room and I was like, in my bed. And I was really trying to fall asleep but I kept on like getting like stuck like, I couldn't move my body. And I would wake up and I can fall asleep. And then like I eventually fell asleep. And I woke up and like it felt like there was like a demon hovering over me. But like everything was black and white. Nothing was in color. It was just like a demon hovering over me. And I was through the in my room and there was a chair at the corner. Oh, I'm getting chills like I could I could like see it like Because I my eyes, you could only go to her back like, yeah, because you can't move your head and I could see it like at the corner and it was just like hovering over me. And like, I was just stuck, couldn't move my head couldn't call my mom for help. I remember I tried to call my mom because like, it literally felt like, like it felt like I was sleeping. I woke up and like it happened, and I could not move. And then like, there was like this quick second, like I came back and like everything back to normal. And that used to freak me out because the fact that it felt so real, and that it would go from like seeing this chair seen a demon over me to nothing, and it's just like,

Alexis Grant 35:34
No, that's scary. I used to know a guy who had day mares young about day mares

Hamsata Mazou 35:39
are those day nightmares. Yeah, so you're fully awake.

Alexis Grant 35:43
But like you're stuck in a dream. So everything you're seeing, it's like all night, like I wouldn't be seeing this room. I'd just be seeing nightmare stuff like, so you're awake. But you're having a nightmare. But you're like, you're

Hamsata Mazou 35:53
just having my brain has restrictions. And I think I'm glad for these restrictions. Because I truthfully, I think now that I think about it, I think I'm the way I am because I don't experience these things like

Alexis Grant 36:06
no, they definitely play a lot on your psyche and how you think I'm not gonna lie because I don't like like that. Like I even kind of explains her like bubble to little Yeah, like, I don't know.

Unknown Speaker 36:18
I did that no people experienced these days.

Jeanine Ikekhua 36:20
I know that you said my sleep paralysis, but I feel like if I believe that sleep paralysis happened, I can definitely see the other things.

Hamsata Mazou 36:27
I mean, I believe you guys for sure. Like I believe, however like especially saying to me like you know, like,

Alexis Grant 36:34
I literally thought everybody lucid dreams. I thought everything you want me help you. I've helped some people, lucid dreams.

Unknown Speaker 36:43
Wait, are they gonna be good ones or

Hamsata Mazou 36:45
bad ones?

Alexis Grant 36:46
If you're lucid dreaming you control it. You're in complete control. You happy?

Jeanine Ikekhua 36:50
Yeah, I think I'm afraid just because like, I trust myself, I'm gonna hold me down. But at the same time, I don't like to experiment or go anywhere near anything like that. Because I don't know what could happen. And I feel like if God wants me lucid dreaming and lucid dream if I'm not

Alexis Grant 37:05
there. It's not like I do any rituals or anything. I just like, like you're just guiding somebody. Right? I just I just give them some like, Well, yeah, I just tell them like some things that help you to listen because sometimes I lucid dream on purpose. My purpose the lucid

Hamsata Mazou 37:18
dream kind of like meditation. You could be there when she doesn't tell me about if you want.

Alexis Grant 37:21
Yeah, I want to it doesn't necessarily mean like happened. I just know some things that can help you shine possibly. But I don't know if it's harder with you. Because normally when I help people, they're already people who dream. I just helped them to be lucid in their dreams. So yeah, it might be I'm missing but I can try and help you. Try. But yeah, I

Jeanine Ikekhua 37:44
mean, if you do it through me and I hold her hand like we could make it let me stop. Yeah, I

Alexis Grant 37:48
don't know why it works like that. You know why it worked like that? But I see what I see where the I see the vision. No, I see the vision. That's it. We're gonna stop it there. I see the vision.

Unknown Speaker 38:00
Yeah, I think we're good. Meat to

Hamsata Mazou 38:05
pick up hello, chat and the answer at the mopod in this episode.

Alexis Grant 38:11
You did great. Janine

Hamsata Mazou 38:12
Yeah. Do you need I would like to say you was out there. You AJAX is terrible, actually. So it's

Jeanine Ikekhua 38:19
in the play when I go to the UK gun I got let me stop. When I come back when I come abroad

Alexis Grant 38:36
in a room stop playing because I'm

Unknown Speaker 38:39
gonna do one thing and one thing only one thing and one thing on the back that you can make up look.

Alexis Grant 38:45
Oh. You know how to do it. You know, come here.

Unknown Speaker 38:53
Come back. Show us how to do it.

Unknown Speaker 38:55
She's losing it. She loses

Jeanine Ikekhua 38:59
nothing. Like she's making me lose it because I feel like it's honestly shot. If I come back with the actual like a mini accent. Just know that I'm used to having to change my accent. No, I agree with you. It's going

Hamsata Mazou 39:12
to talk about this. Okay, it'll have to be on the episode.

Jeanine Ikekhua 39:16
Yes. But the immigrant experience because

Alexis Grant 39:19
I did you want to talk about that next episode?

Unknown Speaker 39:21
Okay. I don't feel like I'm in. By okay,

Alexis Grant 39:25
we've talked about that next episode. We talked about that next episode.

Unknown Speaker 39:29
Oh, okay.

Unknown Speaker 39:33
Girl. Goodbye. Yes,

Alexis Grant 39:34
we have to say bye. Bye to everybody.

Hamsata Mazou 39:37
Guys. Thank you so much for listening to the episode. We hope you enjoyed.

Alexis Grant 39:42
Yeah. Tell us about do you lucid dream. Do you even have dreams? Do you have nightmares? Yeah, prophetic dream. Also have sleep paralysis.

Hamsata Mazou 39:51
What goes you think is gonna get you like what is really gonna be

Unknown Speaker 39:56
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Alexis Grant 40:01
We're actually done here once you oh what's your favorite horror or thriller you're

Hamsata Mazou 40:07
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Hamsata Mazou 40:16
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Hamsata Mazou 40:56
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Alexis Grant 41:02
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Hamsata Mazou 41:27
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Unknown Speaker 41:33
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