On Black.

Alexis Grant 0:00
I'm Lexi.

Hamsata Mazou 0:00
I'm Hamsata

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:01
And I'm Jeanine,

Alexis Grant 0:02
and you're listening to WKNC 88.1 FM HD-1 radio. Thanks for listening!

Welcome back back.

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:16
Welcome back.

Hamsata Mazou 0:17
Welcome. You guys don't know this but it's been a minute since we blessed this mic.

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:21
No for real! It's been like wel over five months.

Alexis Grant 0:24
They don't know that though.

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:26
Oh sorry y'all! it's been like a week.

Alexis Grant 0:29
It's only been three weeks.

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:33
Yeah, it's been three solid weeks. Yeah.

Alexis Grant 0:35
And within those three weeks Jeanine has actually somehow spent a whole semester in the UK.

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:40
Been to four different countries

Hamsata Mazou 0:41
don't even know how that happens.

Alexis Grant 0:43
It's quite magical! Such a magical being. Today, we're just about to say we're having a chat and chew. But we're not chewing, we're chatting. Just whatever. We're just gonna see where it takes us today. Um, before we started, we were talking about how our semesters went, we are at the very end of the semester, today's a lot of people's graduations.

Hamsata Mazou 1:05
Congratulations to the graduates!

Jeanine Ikekhua 1:09
You did that.

Hamsata Mazou 1:10
You DID THAT!

Alexis Grant 1:11
because this, this is something different. This is something different in a bad way. And you did that. So

Hamsata Mazou 1:16
yeah, no. And also the impact you guys made. I know last year this year, like if it wasn't for y'all, I don't know where we would be personally speaking. Ya'll made a huge impact on this campus, regardless of all the triumphs and stuff you guys went through, and we really appreciate it and congratulations.

Jeanine Ikekhua 1:33
We're so proud of you.

Hamsata Mazou 1:34
We really are

Alexis Grant 1:35
I hope all y'all have amazing jobs lined up for you or a great grad program. Okay. I don't ask for a period. We kind of cut ourselves off. But I was we were just talking about how rough this semester has been for everybody. I mean, was it better or worse for you? My first or second semester?

Hamsata Mazou 1:52
I'll say first was worse. Second, it was better for sure. For me.

Jeanine Ikekhua 1:58
They are okay. They are okay.

Hamsata Mazou 2:01
I was going through some things.

Jeanine Ikekhua 2:06
The left has taken me I'm scared.

Alexis Grant 2:09
I mean, only Okay. Your study abroad wasn't abroad enough?

Jeanine Ikekhua 2:14
No, it was abroad. I mean, I've been what I've been to so many countries at this point. But I don't know. It's giving. But I don't know. I don't know. I don't I don't know. I have high standards. I don't know. I don't know.

Hamsata Mazou 2:30
Is it like what's what is your I don't know coming from like, what aspect?

Jeanine Ikekhua 2:35
This was really personal. So well, you you already know. To summarize for the for the listeners, stuff happened. And I got a month and a half taken away from me. So I was not that happy about it. But also, I had to do what I had to do. I just like every time I think about you gone like first I get sad but then secondly, I'm like wow, I just envision you being basically

Alexis Grant 3:02
like Melrose just living your best life. Just I'm just being a UK baby just being a UK baby.

Jeanine Ikekhua 3:11
One thing about the UK baby now I don't want to be disrespectful to the UK girl batty makeup. I don't want to just respectful but I've seen some like really good UK body makeup. I have seen some terrible UK back when I say like I saw what it was giving on Instagram. And it was not given that in real life. When I say when I saw that person and I saw a couple people in person. I said dang since the blushes heavy. The consorts concert like she not know blend she not blended she not blended she not finished in us. She is stuck on SC not moving.

Hamsata Mazou 3:57
I'm internally screaming I was shocked to see our faces during this segment like what?

Jeanine Ikekhua 4:01
No, not nah, but the Black was me eating it up. The black Gasman eating up pretty sure like I'm not personally eating it up in person to black goes be evil.

Hamsata Mazou 4:12
I thought he was talking about the blackboards This is hired under Oh you just talking about the other people

Jeanine Ikekhua 4:21
yeah no the UK no sorry let me clarify the UK black girls they be eating up like okay walk out hair done nail don't wig done like everything is done to a tee now not the Yeah, we just got move on Yeah,

Alexis Grant 4:41
next because when I said UK baby I didn't even know UK baby like the like you can make it was even outside of the black community. I'm gonna be real I only see the UK black

Jeanine Ikekhua 4:51
banner. I've seen other people try to attempt it. Like I saw one today. When I tell you I have her face was orange. have heard,

Hamsata Mazou 5:02
though, isn't it?

Jeanine Ikekhua 5:06
If that's your roots, why are she FaceTiming? Me? Are we talking about me?

Alexis Grant 5:16
I don't know. You can barely make

Jeanine Ikekhua 5:17
it. But oh, yeah, we're done with that. And oh, can we add to that? Jimmy? One?

Alexis Grant 5:25
Oh, yeah, no Janine, you can pop it out in the UK, you've been looking good. You did multiple teas.

Jeanine Ikekhua 5:34
Thank you guys, you know, I don't know how to take compliments. I really appreciate it. You know what's so funny? I'm kind of mad myself. But one thing I've learned this semester is that I am not a content creator. Just because I can make good content. And I can record things does not mean I'm a content creator. Because content creating requires you to become more comfortable with sharing your content. I will be so honest, which I I just will never be. I've been trying for three years. And I think that it gives me more anxiety than happiness, sharing my content. And that is the problem.

Alexis Grant 6:11
But it's good to learn. I would you say like I said, it's good that she learned that though.

Jeanine Ikekhua 6:16
I'm especially give it up.

Hamsata Mazou 6:18
I was gonna say like, that's a realization. I can like relate to but I think our grow out of it. Like I will say sharing things definitely gave me so much anxiety. But I don't know, I think starting off with smaller groups, I'm thinking for me, I'm not saying that you'll ever get to a point that you know, you'll be comfortable with it. But at least for me, it was being able to like, I don't know, first I was just shared just for myself, but I just post so many things. And it's only me that just watch it, you know, and I have to be laughing at myself. I'm like, Wow, I'm such a great. Such a great birthday period. And then from there, I'll make them. And sometimes I'll just show people in person, you'll be like, You know what, since I like you a lot as a person, I'll show you my content, you know what I mean? And then seeing them their reactions and stuff like that, like, oh, well, people actually enjoy seeing it too. And seeing like, their enjoyment is like the same as my enjoyment. And I'm like, Okay, I'll make like a smaller list of people that I feel like, I'm comfortable sharing things with so they can share my enjoyment of me with them, you know? And then from there, it kind of expanded, like, you know what I mean?

Jeanine Ikekhua 7:20
Yeah, so that's what I thought, like, I thought that I could, like do the whole small thing with a small group of people. But I think what find out what I realized was that I'm more scared to share content with the people closest to me, than people that are further away from me. And I think it's because like, I don't like when people know too much. I do not like when people know too much. And I feel like what the vlogs and everything like, I've given it everything like in my last one. You know where I was the entire day. There was not one place that I was not that y'all did not know. And I just like that's too much. And then like I expect, like I have higher expectations of my friends like why are you not commenting every five seconds? You should be commenting me five seconds, but it's like girl you crazy. You're crazy. Don't do that. So they can't be commenting every five seconds. So then it's just like too much expectation on me too much expectation I'm putting on them that they don't even aware about like Are you crazy? A crazy guy? So no, I'm sorry. It's just not gonna work for me. It may be in sight i to that. Nevermind. I don't know. It's just not for me right now.

Hamsata Mazou 8:26
That makes sense. I mean, like, Lexi's. Okay, go ahead.

Alexis Grant 8:30
Oh, my bad. You go. You got it. Okay. I was gonna say I just like I like I like to more raw dog it in the sense of even if it makes me cause

Hamsata Mazou 8:47
Rodarte is crazy. No, it's fun. But it's crazy.

Alexis Grant 8:54
And I've noticed I've noticed this, and I think I might have said this on the podcast, too. I definitely have said it. I know to him sorta in person, because I've said it recently to her. But like, with a lot of my actions, I'm an extremist. And because of that, I feel like if I don't, which I'm trying to find the balance now I'm working on balance now. But if I don't, like put myself out there fully, I won't put myself out there to anybody. And I know for me, it's much more unhealthy for me to not share with anybody than to share with everybody. See, for my mental state you better

Jeanine Ikekhua 9:29
than me, also clued myself and put myself in a box you better than me. If that means safety. I'm gonna be safe in my home solder shaker ownership plans. Yeah, safety in the box. I'm going to be in the box.

Alexis Grant 9:46
Yeah, because I've noticed this with me being like, so a lot of people wouldn't put this like attribute this to me. But to me, I know I'm a shy person. Like when I go out of my way, or like when I'm speaking And to people I don't know specifically, like, it takes a lot in me to do that. It's just I don't like feeling like something. So something that's not real. It's holding me back from connections or like expressing myself. So I push to overcome that constantly. But I do feel like nervous talking to new people. I get shy, like, I get very reserved. I just tried to push through that. That being said, like when I first got here in college, I was like, I'm brand new me no shyness, no nothing. So I just big ball just spoke to will try to for the most part spoke to whoever I had even an inkling or an inkling, whatever the word is. Speak to Yeah. And then I was like, Okay, I've met a lot of people, I can calm down. And then I calm down. Cool, cool, cool. But then I got back to the point where there might be somebody here there that I wanted to speak to a morning to get to know. And because I wasn't in that routine of going out of my way to talk to people all the time. I had a hard time pushing past that. So there was like, times where I wouldn't speak to people when I wanted to, because I just wasn't in the routine of doing that anymore. And I feel like that's how I would be content creation. Like I just got to fool myself again, I'm off the road, dog it and just make it public public. Because me keeping it reserved, like I'm just not good with the balance. mean, the balance we don't have. We're not We're not tangoing, we're not in cahoots. I want to be though. I want to get there.

Jeanine Ikekhua 11:29
I'm not gonna lie. I'm taking social media applications. If anybody wants to be my social media manager, I have the content is in my phone. I have seven blogs that are edited and ready to go for the past month that are in my phone. Don't ask me. I just will not post them. So who wants to help me apply at Giannini Cakewalk social media? manager.com. Thank you.

Hamsata Mazou 11:54
Well, one, I have two things to say. Number one,

Jeanine Ikekhua 11:58
come like a therapist. Oh, no. Let me let me get adjusted. I'm ready for you now. No,

Hamsata Mazou 12:05
it's because you know, children better not interesting people. So yeah, the one I was like, do you mean, this seems like a habit you have? Because you know what this reminds me of? Ever? Oh, my God, not too much.

Jeanine Ikekhua 12:19
Do you remember, you know too much, not too much. Now, it's like the same thing

Hamsata Mazou 12:29
is the same behavior as category, and I won't get into it. But because this is repeating it means something, you know, it means something shows. Passions, you have interest, and you are good at them. But something is blocking you from pursuing them. And that's something it's something that Janine needs to figure it out. Because she means content and everything is amazing and deserves to be seen everywhere. But something stop you from doing that. And I don't know what it is. You don't know what it is?

Alexis Grant 13:09
Is it the safety what it is? I feel like it's probably because that's what you always attribute back to like that safety and like not wanting everybody like in your life.

Jeanine Ikekhua 13:18
Yeah, it's honestly the safety. I just I don't like when people know too much. Like, it's just it's a lot. Also this time, because you're I was on a roll. I was on a roll like the first couple like three months, I was on a roll. What happened? And then honestly, that ticket I shut down for like, not shut down. But like, I stopped doing all that stuff for like a month and a half, which is where I'm trying to come back now. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Just like the anxiety. We're posting like, the I don't know. Maybe there's fear. Maybe I should go speak to somebody about it. But I don't know. I don't know where it came from. I don't know.

Hamsata Mazou 13:59
Yeah, I mean, yes, I guess you know what it is, but like, I feel like there is more to it. I think this is what meets the eye. I feel like there might be something more to it that doesn't meet the eye, if that makes sense. As I'm like just you know, like, Oh, of course I just like to diving into that and just kind of discovering and exploring could be a huge benefit as to you trying to at least understanding it, or surpassing it and just being able to, you know, do what you want to do without those barriers.

Jeanine Ikekhua 14:31
vibes. I'll take that into vibes No, honestly no, no, it's a very good point. It's a very very good point. I just don't know what to do.

Alexis Grant 14:43
I don't know if this you could try because this is what helps me like I just posted that like I don't know if you saw it yet, but I've just posted a little vlog on tick tock

Hamsata Mazou 14:55
I loved it. I loved it like I just thought the comments and they resonated with how I felt. I didn't feel like commenting anything I'm also not a commenter at heart. I only recently started commenting, because I realized that's something people do. And I still find it weird. So I just keep it minimal. I don't understand how I feel like if I double tap, it's enough. It's enough. Like, I don't know, I'd rather just tell you in person, like the commenting stuff. I'd rather just tell the person in person rather than commenting it like Billy Yeah, I loved it. It was good. I loved it so much.

Alexis Grant 15:23
Even with that, like I called my best friend from back home. And I screen shared and I showed it to her first. And I just needed that last extra push. She was like, she was laughing and she liked it. I was like, so I should make it public. And she was like, yes. So immediately without thinking any more. I was just like, okay, boom, I posted it.

Jeanine Ikekhua 15:41
Here

Hamsata Mazou 15:42
you Yeah, I'm glad I was like, this is public was kind of wow, I was gonna be like a friend's thing. But it was public. I was like, Wow, this. I'm liking this, you know? Yeah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 15:54
I'm gonna go watch it now. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go watch it. I missed it on my time. I'm gonna go watch it.

Hamsata Mazou 16:00
Right now. We could pause for you. Right? Yeah,

Alexis Grant 16:02
I could cut it out. You could watch it

Hamsata Mazou 16:04
now. Oh. lessons together. Actually. I was watching this. I come in. I try. I just I try to comment. I don't know.

Alexis Grant 16:15
But yeah, I had to like call Medina and be like, get her to watch it first. Because, yeah, she'll tell me because she's somebody that I feel comfortable showing anything to even if it's embarrassing. So I was like, in the case that it is actually bad and embarrassing. Like, I won't feel bad that I showed it to her. You know what I mean? Just having somebody in your corner like that to like, look over your content and be like, like, just those. The one person reassurance is enough for me. But I don't know if you've ever tried that. Like if that would work for you.

Jeanine Ikekhua 16:46
I think this is a bigger issue of I need to learn to trust people. I trust y'all like I trust y'all, but I feel like y'all probably feel this but there's a certain level of trust that I just don't have with anybody. Like it's me and my homie, God and Jesus to the Holy Ghost be together like this. Everybody else.

Hamsata Mazou 17:07
Just is all the fingers together like this.

Jeanine Ikekhua 17:11
But everybody else knows give me the MyPillow hand muppet. We're such children. I hope we stay like this forever. I know. I will.

Alexis Grant 17:23
Forget hope I'm forcing I don't I don't know. I'm not letting myself have that option. Oh,

Hamsata Mazou 17:32
spirit. Oh, I don't know. I just ever have a child. It'll stay. I just feel like it's so innate to my personality. That if he leaves, it's like, who am I? Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't know, myself when I see a child. Like every time I look at myself, which is always so crazy people are like, yeah, he seems so old and mature.

Alexis Grant 17:52
And I feel that way but I also know there's people who are old and grumpy and not childlike. Now who felt the same way at our age. So I know it's gonna be something in the future that I might actually have to work on like purposely putting myself in situations to like bring out that childness in me okay, you know like let's don't go into the park as an adult not when children are there that's strange

Yeah, like going to the park like like even doing things in an adult manner that are more childlike like you know go into little painting classes and like doing little things like that to keep that little that little childlike wonder and myself. I'm okay putting in the effort to be like that. You know?

Jeanine Ikekhua 18:39
Like see you just motivated me now. I want to go post one of my videos

Alexis Grant 18:49
right now right now?

Jeanine Ikekhua 18:51
Absolutely not the device. No, no, because the next one that I need to post is my birthday vlog and that one is not done. I gotta post that one.

Hamsata Mazou 19:00
Okay, you just said I was next you this next we'll give you the benefit of that one. Yep, I said I said that one was next about what didn't hurt if you get them a buffer but before the birthday like one of the seven you got up there locked to posted

Jeanine Ikekhua 19:12
No, no don't i i realized that i have so much so much footage from Spain. It's just like random stuff. I should I want to get rid of it. So I'll probably dumped it on my thing. First of all, I literally have this whole video talking about like when you have bad days. And like it's this like beautiful like this. You can see the sunset rising. And then like you can like see me getting out of bed and like you can see the darkness and then I turned on

Alexis Grant 19:39
can't wait to watch it. Can't wait for you to post it there. I

Jeanine Ikekhua 19:42
can't wait for me to get it together and actually edit it. That's the one that I've not wanted to edit. But that's the best set of points besides the point

Alexis Grant 19:49
this semester. I feel like some of my biggest takeaways get things I've gained. One I'm We've talked about this before, where sometimes I'd like to help people to my own detriment. Cuckoo cuckoo. We've talked about that. Push on, I realized that, how do I put this? Yes, I do that. But it goes beyond that, in the sense of, I've always been somebody who prided themselves that I'm not easily influenced. And, like, I don't really like feel like peer pressure like that, or anything, like I don't really let that affect my actions. That being said, I've just recently and when I say recently, I mean, like, in the past few days, like had a little talk with myself had taken accountability, that, yes, I don't let individuals like cause that for me, but, and I know environment is important, but I just realized how much my environment is playing a role in some of my actions. And because I've been so stubborn, and then like, oh, people don't like determine my actions, this, that the third, I've been stubborn to the fact that I'm still, my environment is still gonna dictate my actions to a certain degree, whether I want it to or not. That being said, I'm working on my environment, in the sense of how do I put this, I wouldn't say I'm shifting who my friends are, because all the friends I have now I still love them dearly. I wouldn't say anybody's wrongfully impacting me. But the direction I'm trying to go with myself and my self growth, I am being more purposeful about the new people I'm bringing in. And about where some of my time is going. So like, I'm, like, in the next week, there's like a few people that I'm either like speaking to or like meeting up with and stuff, people I'm not really close to, that I want to create a bond with, because they're either in a position that I'm working towards, or they're working in, like towards that same position. And I feel like especially when it comes to my faith, I feel like I don't have that many people in my immediate circle, physically, like, in my like, literally, like around me at college, who are working towards those same things. So that's something that I'm working on starting this summer, bringing that more into my life. Now, that's

Jeanine Ikekhua 22:24
a good thing to have. I have questions, but I can't ask on the podcast, because it's a little too personal. But do I have I'm a little confused, but I get what you're saying. So is it like? Like, are you sure? Like all the people that you have in your life right now, before you started this whole thing? Are you sure like they like they are good to be in your life, like you can grow with these people into who you're becoming?

Alexis Grant 22:48
I can grow with them in my life doesn't necessarily mean I'm going with them, if that makes sense. Like, I can grow into the path I need to grow into, and they still be around, I'm just aware that they're not gonna grow with me in those conversations that I need to have, or certain things I need to do. They're not gonna be with me for that. That makes sense. So I wouldn't say anybody in my life is holding me down issues. I don't have enough people pulling

Hamsata Mazou 23:13
me up. That's a good way of putting it. Thank you, thank you.

Jeanine Ikekhua 23:23
That did it for me. For me, right there.

Hamsata Mazou 23:26
It's different. It's something I haven't seen or heard of, I'd say I feel like it's oftentimes the people around you are holding you down? Or if they're not going the same direction as you you gotta cut them off. Or, I would say like, how about, like, bring them onto the journey with you that when you haven't touched on, I'm gonna just assuming that it just doesn't align with them. So you're not trying to like, but I guess like even opening that door if you wanted to, like, Do you think that's just like a waste of time or something? Besant also the very perspective I've heard of like, when you're going on your growth journey. So this one is just new? And I think it's a really good one. But yeah, how do you feel about that

Alexis Grant 24:02
last option. Um, I feel like, because there are some people in my, that I'm friends with who are like, wanting to be in that same direction. So as I grow, obviously, I'm gonna share that information that I have with them, vice versa, we will be growing together in a certain direction. But some, some of these people that are in my life, they're either not ready to go in that direction, or just the dynamic that we have, they might be going that direction, but our dynamic does not facilitate that kind of connection. So even though we might be growing parallel, we're not doing it together necessarily, like we're not overlapping. I feel like that's the best answer I can give for that. But I don't want to. I feel like you can't help people who don't want to be helped. That's only temporary. You can look out for them. You can care for them. And like you, you can help them but you can't help them change unless they want like that change. So I feel like Even to the point where if somebody really wants to change in like they're putting in that effort, I do see them on the same path of like growing as me. But if they're not even at that point, then that's okay. I just have to like, like, separate some of the things I'm doing in my life from them. And I just purposely would not bring them into certain aspects of my life, because I don't want them again to like, I don't want it to get to the point to where they're holding me back. And I don't want to stay stagnant in the new endeavors that I'm trying to pursue.

Jeanine Ikekhua 25:33
Snap Snap snaps all around, that was good. No, that was

Hamsata Mazou 25:37
like, the amount of intelligence one needs to have even have the that understanding is just like, you know, profound and the fact that you are able to, like, recognize and establish this so coherently and clearly, it's just like, wow, like, it makes perfect sense. I just asked a question. You could just kind of see where your minds at. And also beautiful answer, like, yeah.

Alexis Grant 26:02
Like, I enjoyed the questions, too.

Hamsata Mazou 26:04
It's not like a good or bad response. But that was like such a great response. You know what I mean? Like, there is no good or bad, but like, that was a good response.

Jeanine Ikekhua 26:12
Now, one, eight, that was a question that we really do.

Alexis Grant 26:15
I appreciate the questions too, because honestly, like the last question you thought of, I didn't really think of it until you asked it. Me. Yeah, like that question of like, bringing people along with you. I never actually thought about a response for that until you asked it, but I liked that I was able to have an answer for that. Like, I was like, I liked that I was able to be able to think about that. Same with Janine like, I can't remember what whatever you had asked about, like when you asked me to clarify something. And I reworded it. The way I reworded, it is the first time I've ever put it in those words, and I really enjoyed it for myself.

Hamsata Mazou 26:49
I will have to say that happens to me a lot in life. I feel like lots of my realizations are good questions. Other people asked me and then I just answer it. I'm like, wow, this is actually how I feel about Dubai. Me like sometimes we don't literally, yes, questions all the time. Like I think half of the self growth is so self identifications that have happened to me, it's sort of two questions people have asked me I'm like, I've talked about this before, and I just answered just how I'm feeling. I'm like, wow, this is something like I think this is something I wouldn't have came to on my own either. It's something I probably would have dismissed or had been like, it's not that big of a deal. But saying to somebody else, like helps reaffirm and like really stabilize it as it like reality within yourself as something that you actually believe in or want to work towards isn't like that. So yeah, I can really relate to you like the way you're feeling right now from these responses. Like, it's just like, I think it's your insight your inner self to speaking and like, this is how you feel with no like, you know, limits. Janine Your

Alexis Grant 27:49
face is killing me. You look like a proud mom or some No, because you're

Jeanine Ikekhua 27:52
so big. Like, y'all are so big. Your brains are so big, like, Oh my God.

Alexis Grant 27:59
What's the thing people be like your brains wrinkly?

Jeanine Ikekhua 28:04
Wow. No, I did when we first started this podcast. Not saying that, like y'all have always been intelligent. Y'all have always been told you I've always already articulate yourself. But I think the amount of mental growth and intelligence in that aspect has grown significantly. Like I feel like the priorities have definitely shifted. And I really love that for y'all because like, I just, I love when y'all grow. I love hearing your stories. I love hearing y'all talk like I just want you all to be happy and blessed and like a half's Beloved,

Alexis Grant 28:34
now I feel like a proud mom. Now I want to Tierra like

Jeanine Ikekhua 28:41
what was I gonna say? But I was gonna say something on that point. No, like, See, I definitely feel you and like getting people to pull you up. I feel like mine is kind of not opposite, but same direction, but same direction, but different path. Mine is that, like I have the people to pull me up. It's just a matter of me to let them help me pull me up. So like, for example, for me, one thing that I really, really wanted for my birthday, like I'll be telling people don't call me Don't mess on a car. But one thing that I wonder if my birthday was I really, really wanted people. I wanted all my friends to get on Facebook and I wanted them to pray for me. Like that was the only thing I wanted for my birthday. But it didn't happen because I was too afraid to share something so intimate and ask people if something so big, because the prayer is huge. Like you can really, I feel like you can really elevate your life. Take your life down with the type of prayers that are said and the things that come out of your mouth. And I really, really wanted that. So I feel like a big part of it is also like identifying who can pull you up but also allowing them to play that role in your life.

Alexis Grant 29:49
Everyday everybody's have a really wrinkly brain. Our brains are wrinkling because you're spinning and I'm over here nodding my head and I'm just

Jeanine Ikekhua 29:59
What a life guys what alive will say,

Alexis Grant 30:05
you know, even though it didn't get to happen for your birthday, if you still need prayer on that topic, don't let it be a situation where you make it too late, like still reach out to those people who you want to pray for you, and still ask them to pray for you.

Hamsata Mazou 30:19
That is such a good thing.

Jeanine Ikekhua 30:22
It is but I think also like I just I don't know what it is. But fear. Fear in my life were a little too in cahoots, like we alluded to together, I think I just have a lot of fear with a lot of things. I'm sorry.

Hamsata Mazou 30:38
You gonna sever that connection? Okay.

Jeanine Ikekhua 30:41
I just, I feel like I have a lot of fear when it comes to a lot of things, which is so crazy, because I feel like I'm so adventurous. Like, I came to a different country, I studied abroad, like, I feel like I do a lot of things that are out of my comfort zone. But yet, for some reason, just certain things, combined with fear. And it just holds me back from being my best version. And I'm tired of holding myself back. I have a question. I have to answer.

Alexis Grant 31:06
You say the study abroad was out of your comfort zone. But also earlier, when I was talking about Lucille Ball, you're like, Yeah, but I've been to a bunch of countries. So have you just convinced yourself certain things that you do are out of your comfort zone, when they're really international? Exactly?

Hamsata Mazou 31:19
Well, I'm gonna say, I'm just gonna say, like, the things you think outside your comfort zone aren't really outside your comfort zone, but you're convincing yourself that because I want to say were these things that you were like, kind of played at hand into that you kind of had to do and then you're like, oh, this was out of my comfort zone, versus the things that are now kind of holding you back, or things that are actually out of your comfort zone, and you have nothing to kind of like, you know, pull you in that direction, do it. So it's actually really out of your comfort zone. Like I click these comfort zones, are they two different categories, and they can't compare because they're not the same?

Jeanine Ikekhua 31:56
Okay, maybe studying abroad is not in my comfort zone, because I'm finally going to a different country living by myself. I did as you say, I've done it multiple times live by myself, like it's not. It's not been a problem for me to how No, I haven't challenged myself in a while. But I'm also I feel like I'm trying to balance like, giving myself grace, but also trying to progress. Because I don't know, I just I feel like I'm at the point where I feel like I feel really fragile with myself. And I don't want to do too much. But I want to do just enough to take me to the next step.

Alexis Grant 32:33
Is there anything that you can do? Because I know this is for me, sometimes there's certain things I'm fearful to do. But if I actually look at the situation, there is no bad outcome from it. Is there anything like that in your life currently, we're like something that could push your comfort zone or push your fear or like you overcome some fear, that doesn't actually have any negative outcome to where it even though you're fragile, it won't break you.

Jeanine Ikekhua 33:01
I mean, the closest thing is probably content creating, because I'm not going to do is post and run away. So I'm really much there. But post them run away. I don't know, I don't ask, I really do not know, I'm in a space right now where I'm trying to build myself back up to the Geneen that I'm used to. That's where I need to get back. I've gone down and now I need to get back up to the Gini that I'm used to so I can progress further. Just because a lot has happened. I'm still processing this is not what I expected. God did a 360 on me and say, You know what, I'm gonna give you a little surprise, sweetie. And the surprise shook me. It shook the heck out of me. So I'm still bouncing back. I don't know, just from the low off. Yeah,

Hamsata Mazou 33:52
I mean, definitely take your time. You know, there is no rush. Everything has your own speed. Because whatever needs to happen will happen. But just being open to those possibilities, I'd say letting them be be aware of them and stuff is just always a good first step. So when you are ready, take those steps like you know, you're open to receive it or something like that. Maybe that's what I was saying. But yeah, definitely take your time and get back to you.

Alexis Grant 34:22
Okay, with you bouncing back. Is it is it in regards to like habits or like things you used to do for yourself or like, like, trying to bounce back mentally to where you were before?

Jeanine Ikekhua 34:40
Probably mentally to where I was before. I feel like I'm I feel like I'm in a different headspace or like I'm just trying to survive, versus like, I'm trying to do things to progress. I feel like I'm in like survival mode or like I'm just trying to stay alive and well. And just in Enjoy these last month and a half. Oh my god, enjoy the last month and a half. That's where my head is right now. And I don't know. Oh no. Also this is a very this is very off topic but kind of on topic of like mental health. If you are a study abroad student PSA, NC State's mental health offices mental health, what's called resources are not available to you while you're abroad. So you need to rely on your current school that you're at that you're only going to be out for probably six months or a year or half. We're going to be at our you need to figure something else out.

Hamsata Mazou 35:38
Just a PSA. That's good. That's interesting. Know that I

Jeanine Ikekhua 35:44
know. Yeah. As you say, fix that. Fix that.

Hamsata Mazou 35:48
It might surprise you hikers Jeepers Creepers by I'm a little shocked if

Alexis Grant 35:55
you ever anything say about any of that? Because not the not the study abroad. Mental health resources. But the stuff before that

Hamsata Mazou 36:04
a lot. I feel

Jeanine Ikekhua 36:05
like she's zoned out. Yeah. Yeah. Because she does this thing where she sits back. And she started looking like she Oh, she lost. And I just thought yeah, she's on now she's on out for sure.

Hamsata Mazou 36:18
Because Oh, not sometimes I still get into it. But I think when I zoom back in, we're talking about, like a whole new topic. I couldn't I couldn't connect dots.

Jeanine Ikekhua 36:26
Oh, I'm sorry. Your term. Oh,

Hamsata Mazou 36:30
okay. Get get in there. So much has happened this semester. I feel like lots of areas of growth and realization. I think specifically, like some of them are long term. But honestly, within this last like few days, a lot of things have been happening as well. But I feel like we're like, part of this semester as well. I'd say one, like the people you surround yourself with, like, the groups and stuff. I guess for me, I kind of came in with the idea of like, oh, we kind of feel like for freshman year you kind of solidify things. You're like, oh, this is it, this is how things are going to be. And then for things not to really play out that way. And I was kind of like naive, I guess I would say like, oh, no, nothing's like, you know, really happening like, this is really the same thing. As it was last time, it's just a few humps or hurdles. But there is a point where you have just recognize, like, some things aren't working out anymore, or things aren't going to how you expect them to be. And you just gotta face the reality of it. You know what I mean? Like, maybe these connections aren't gonna be the same anymore, but doesn't mean that you can't still have them, or these connections may just be the end of that. And that's just a you know, that's life. You know what I mean? I think sometimes it was just a little bit more harder for me, or a little bit more difficult for me, because I don't know, for me, it's just like, alongside me, somebody has like a good connection. I feel like it can't really be severed. It's just like, it may not be as consistent or content. But sometimes it is and and it's not even anything of you're doing sometimes the other party, you know, because he can't really friendships or connections or like a two party thing. Like there's two sides to it, you know what I mean? Then you're just coming to the realization and then like to say I relate to your sentiments about balance and stuff. I would also say I'm an extremist, extremist and my own ways that I'm either fully this way or that way. Like I feel like I'm either for example, and I'm really out there talking to them and stuff like that. I'm like really quiet to myself and like focused. There's never when I'm just like, a balance is rather when I shut in between this this but constantly, but there's no real balance. So I think just coming to the balance of just like centering myself, and just trying to find that balance. Like you know that 16 personalities quiz they meant to you. I took one recently,

Unknown Speaker 38:49
because yeah, yeah, I kind of take those areas that the numbers one

Hamsata Mazou 38:54
isn't the elf joy? Is

Alexis Grant 38:55
that the one where it's like the NFG?

Jeanine Ikekhua 38:57
Yeah.

Alexis Grant 39:00
Yeah, that one. So letter one.

Hamsata Mazou 39:01
Yeah. So I'm actually surprisingly, I didn't feel like I take it like kind of every year. I don't know half because it's gonna be doing it since like high school, I don't know. But I get the same personality every single time. But it's interesting to see how the numbers have slowly started to balance each other out, if that makes sense. And before I was extremely more on this side of this, that I still get the same letters. But I'm more closer to the center of possibly the other personality type, which I don't think I would ever since considering I've been the same one for like the past like three years. But it's interesting to see how I feel like I've definitely been a lot more of an extremist and I've come to balance myself, but I think now I've come into like a balance of going either and more consistently rather than before sticking to one side. So I think now I just want to be able to have more control over that and just kind of you know, tap into things and be more in control of it myself rather than my feelings. I feel like I'm more of like a wherever something pushes me but can I pushed myself to a direction instead. You know, I don't know if that makes sense.

Jeanine Ikekhua 40:04
No, that makes sense. Like you

Alexis Grant 40:07
choosing the direction you want to go to instead of like, what's going on around you choosing or Well, I

Hamsata Mazou 40:12
feel like it's more so like how I feel about something or my environment. Like if something makes me feel sad. I'm like, Okay, I guess I'm sad today. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's it. Do you know I mean, versus like, it's like comes out of maybe ship your perspective? Maybe let? Put another way, actually, I don't feel like feelings is something a good thing? Maybe something's like really interesting, right? And I'm like, oh, I should do this. It sounds fun. I roofer will energize for it. So I guess I do like outside energy, because extrovert, whatever it is, it's just like, that's what I'm drawn to. And if I'm drawn to it, I'm like, let me do it. But sometimes things that I don't feel like doing that don't make me give me energy, or I'd be about it. Like maybe schoolwork, for example. I just kind of push it to the side. And it's just like, you can't always go with your feelings every single time. So I'm just gonna, you know, it'll push yourself to do things just because you need to get them done. If that's more of a better example of how I could push myself, ya

Jeanine Ikekhua 41:02
know, I get the feeling things because sometimes I really don't want to watch that lecture. I really don't want to go to class, I really don't want to submit that assignment. But the assignment got to get done, and I got to do it. So let's get it done.

Hamsata Mazou 41:16
That was an example. Like, it could be part of other facets of my life. But like, I think education is like a little bit more easier and clearer example of that. But yeah, just like sometimes you need to be able to control yourself a little bit more, just like

Jeanine Ikekhua 41:30
the action question. Okay. I was like, it's easy for me to be like, okay, Janine, you know, you have moments where you feel sad, but you know, you need to push through. Like, that's fine. I can say that when I'm like, happy or like, things are like, okay, when I'm sad. How do I get in that mindset of cheating? I know, we're sad right now. But like, we really need to push through. Because when I'm sad, leave me alone. Let me be in my sadness in my room. I just I don't know how to like, I think I'm still learning like how to shift perspective, because it's not like shifting perspective when things aren't going, okay. It's shifting perspective for me when things aren't going okay, or not going, okay, that's when I have a problem.

Alexis Grant 42:15
Was that a rhetorical question? Or would you like,

Jeanine Ikekhua 42:18
whatever y'all want to sprinkle

Alexis Grant 42:21
among as me like, I'm the expert. Every time I'm sad, I'm able to get myself inside. But there are certain things that I know that helped me. For one, if it's sunny outside, or it's good temperature, or just go outside, or try to go somewhere where there's a lot of greenery. And this might just be a meeting. I know some other people will feel like there's by No, not everybody feels like this, me binning being around greenery, and like, Mother Earth and like natural life, grounds me a lot. It makes me realize like, Okay, on the extreme end, I'm thinking, bro, I can literally live as a nomad and I don't even need a job. That's the extreme end. But the non extreme end, it grounds me in the sense, I'm like, what I'm perseverating around, like about right now. And what's stressing me out right now, I can still have a happy full life, without whatever this thing is going to provide me. And just putting it in the perspective of not putting so much pressure on whatever is like, making me upset, sometimes makes it the whole problem just seems smaller, so then it just doesn't affect my mood as much. Now it

Jeanine Ikekhua 43:30
started doing that, because I was thinking about that I always got stressed when I make like big purchase, okay, they're not being bought out what I think are big purchases. Like I was at the store and like the Euro come from me. I spent like 100 and something dollars at h&m Because I'm preparing to go to Spain. And I was like, Janine, in retrospect, is not that much money because how much money are you really spending like that? But then I put so much pressure on the whole thing of like, well, if I don't if I spend this money now that I'm not gonna have money in the future, and what if I don't get a job that I'd rather then I'm gonna be broke forever and ever and ever. And I think I would say yeah, I would overthinker I'm gonna overtake I'm an overthinker. You out think it's one thing? Nah, I will make it into 60 different things. I'm an OB GYN don't look too scared now. I'm cyberspace is killing me. What's on your mind?

Hamsata Mazou 44:25
I don't know. I think it's just another perspective. You know what I mean? Like, for me, I will consider myself an over thinker, but I guess for bigger things, rather than smaller decisions. Like smartest, I don't really think about them. I'm like, Okay, this, I want the clothes. Do I need it? Like when I'm shopping? I'll just be like, do you really need this? And I'm like, Yeah, and I massively so I like the three reasons. I'm like, okay, boom. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's the end of that. It's total ended up being this much. I'm like, Well, I want to every piece Do I really need it in this total? Did I mean I'm like, Okay, no, boom. Like, I think I overthink it, but not to that extent like the whole like Oh, when I'm older, what if I need this money later, the ads never crossed my mind. And that was when I was like, whoa, this. This is a level overthinking. I've never, you know, experienced or seen as like, you want a different level of overthinking. For me.

Jeanine Ikekhua 45:15
I think it's because like, Oh, I saw this the other day, I think is because money is such a big thing for me. Like I was, I saw this tech talk, and this girl was talking about how like, she used to be poor, but now she has like money, and she's able to take care of herself and her family. But she's still living in that mindset of where she feels like money is gonna go away from her at any moment. And I feel like that's me. Because there was a period in my life where we didn't have that much money. I'm still in the mindset of like, Janine, why are you spending money? Like, girl, we're still broke. But it's like, no, we're not broke. So yeah,

Hamsata Mazou 45:51
I see what you're saying. I've seen those tech talks before. I don't think like also, I like lived a time in my life where I didn't have money, like my family died money. But I know, it just never really affected me. I'd say like, to me, I had the mindset of money will always come back to me. Like, it doesn't matter if I always get money back like money finds a way to find me. And I always find money, if that makes sense. So like, although I can relate to those sentiments, I just feel like it's never affected me in that way. Which also makes me feel like, like, I don't know, what's the difference? What made me think this way, rather than like, most people who were in those environments end up thinking the other way, do you mind me? But I definitely understand, like where you're coming from?

Jeanine Ikekhua 46:31
That is so crazy. Like, I don't know that perspective. Not that not that your perspective is crazy. But like it's blowing my mind, because I'm not used to it. But like, the fact that you just said like money will always come back to him like

Alexis Grant 46:42
girl. Yeah, she's saying that, and that'd be getting to me.

Jeanine Ikekhua 46:46
Because no, because I need to hold on to every single penny, like I

Hamsata Mazou 46:49
spent money kind of recklessly, I'm not gonna even lie to you. And I'm trying to get better at it. Because Why are you shaking your head like that? Like,

Alexis Grant 46:57
because I've, I've noticed just from some of our conversations that you'll have, when you're planning out your money stuff, sometimes, like, even when we were talking about you in your money this summer, the way he was talking about some of that stuff. I was just like, Man, I do not have that much peace over my life for me to be playing. Like,

Jeanine Ikekhua 47:16
Oh, I feel you because me and him saw we're gonna get a storage unit. And she looked me dead in my face. And she said, because the money would have been cheaper if she had done on her own. And she looked me dead in my face. And she literally said, Well, I was just trusting you to you know, just give me the cheapest one. As long as not a what? You didn't sit down there to calculate what was the cheapest. You just trusted me to make sure you're getting the cheapest, and you better enter a deal. That wasn't the cheapest. I'm so confused right now. The amount of trust you have in money coming back to you. I really applaud you. I really applaud you. I really

Alexis Grant 47:52
Okay, think about it. From a religious standpoint, the your relationship with money is probably better than me and Jeanine, because I do feel like at times, I am a slave to money. I am letting money be my master. You though. Money is Your peasant you i that that man money has never that mean money is not controlling you to any degree?

Hamsata Mazou 48:15
No, not really. I will say I am blessed to have my scholarship. Like without that scholarship. I would know I would not be anywhere with my money. But I don't know ever since I've gotten it like I really I don't know, I also feel like anytime I ever do get into a pickle or something. I know I have like my family that I can lean on to because I don't lean on to them. So often. You don't I mean, because I am mostly like self reliance self sufficient, like unless it's like needed, like, oh, like basic needs things. Either I buy them or like, tell my parents like, oh, I need this and they'll buy it for me at this like extra things like as long as I can find like a good reason for buying like my iPad, for example. I just my uncle I was like, oh, I need this for school and stuff. You got it for me, boom. And I added my extra money and I got the one on one you don't I mean, like I don't that's kind of how I see it. Like, I've self reliant and I use the money as I need it. But I also know there are connections and if I need something, don't get me wrong for me to ask my uncle. It's like a lot. I'm not the most forthcoming and asking for money. Even for my mother, like I know she's not like the most like financially bla bla. So now I'm like, I don't go to her directly. But when I need something, I find a good reason for it. As long as I find a good reason for it. I go for it, you know, and I use my sources and I use my you know what I mean? Like I don't know.

Jeanine Ikekhua 49:25
Now that makes sense. No, it makes sense. No. Oh, that is so interesting. You made me think about it, I think because like for me. I know I have a family like my all my family members, they're working. Everybody has a job. We have a nice house. But I think in my mind, like if I was having a financial crisis, I would probably keep it to myself and figure it out on my own. Like I've no I do not ask this what I'm saying like that's what I find. That's what we're so different. Because I just feel like, I'm going to rely on myself like, I don't I don't see anybody else. Even though my family would like my family would break an arm and a leg to come and help me whatever was going on. But I just I don't know, like, I just don't feel comfortable going to them in times of needs, not because they haven't done a good job, but just because I feel bad take money from people. Like, at the end of the day, everybody's trying to make it on their own. Everybody's trying to survive, and I'm just like, Oh, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna ask for even if it just $5 I'm not Ooh, maybe I shouldn't.

Alexis Grant 50:22
Yeah, I'm closer to Janine, like, as far as like, I the thought to ask my family for money. The doctor asked my family who aren't my parents, like, my mom or dad for money has never even crossed my mind before until I came to college. Has never even like that was never even, like an option to me. And to this day, like if I asked, I would want to say yes, they would give me money. But I don't even know. I don't think that's I don't know if that's common in my family to do. Like, I can't think of time like I can think of times maybe where somebody's help somebody out and stuff like that. But not like not in any circumstance. Like how you said like, oh, like I need something for school. So I asked the uncle like, I don't know if anybody in my family like really does that I feel like we more. If we're asking for things of each other. It's not straight up like money, it might have things a monetary value, but it's not straight up money. Like no, that's what

Hamsata Mazou 51:23
I'm saying. Like I didn't like, oh, okay, I see what you're saying.

Alexis Grant 51:26
Yeah, like, it's like other stuff, like having a place to stay and like things like that. I would feel comfortable asking my family or like getting me connected to a certain thing, getting resources from them. I would feel comfortable asking but things like, like straight up monetary, physical items. I have never even like conceived that idea before. And even from my parents, like, I feel kind of strange. asking money from my parents. They do give me a little bit of money per Yeah, they do give me a little bit of money. But there has been a few times like throughout college where, like, within that week or two, like I didn't have enough and I had to ask for more. It's typically because of food is typically like, Yeah, I'm, I don't have enough to pay for food. And it's like I even asking my parents for like extra food money makes me feel so uncomfortable. And I've only had to do that maybe three times since being in college. But I was not. I did not have a good time. I did not have a good time.

Jeanine Ikekhua 52:29
Which is why because you think that would be most comfortable with our parents. But oh, no, I don't no, no.

Hamsata Mazou 52:36
Okay, so don't get me wrong. Oh, no, no, go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, I was gonna say don't get me wrong, but I definitely try to like earn my own money and like self suffice for myself. But like if I'm Oh, okay. But like, if I ever come in a predicament?

Alexis Grant 52:52
Yeah, yeah, it's not it's not I think you just like using them and abusing them. It's just like the fact you even think of that as an option. I don't think of that as an option to begin with, I

Jeanine Ikekhua 53:01
guess what I'm trying to say I'm trying to say like, you have the right perspective. When things happen. You should rely on your family, when you need things and you're not in this. You're literally in college. Like you're not supposed to be getting this stuff yourself. And our reality. We should all be getting a little a little stipend from our parents, because at the end of the day, did we really want to go to college? Or did they just put us on a cycle that want to go to college?

Hamsata Mazou 53:23
I think it's a mix of both. I think I learned more society on them. Like I feel like I would just bread it to like yeah, you got to go to college next step. Like I've never heard trade school as like done. Like I've heard of it, but it was more like you got like a low job or whatever. Not like anything, you know, big and like can make you a lot of money, which is a misconception for sure. But I just wasn't previewed to those options. I was just like, cause an extent, but because I didn't know what I wanted to do. Like before college. I had no clue what I wanted to do at all

Jeanine Ikekhua 53:54
stood up for what I'm doing. very dear. Hmm, yes, yes. But no.

Alexis Grant 54:05
I know what I want to do before I made it into college. It was just my struggle that I have more is there's different ways to get there. And sometimes I change on like, which way I think is the right path of meat to get there. So what do you want to do? I want to get into biomimicry, which was biomimicry. So, there it's had do I put this Okay, so there's a lot of fields that go into it. I could be a biologist, I can be a mechanical engineer, any of the engineers I could be an environmental engineer, I can be an environmentalist, I can be a chemist. There's a lot of different like, they're all pretty much STEM fields that go into it. But it's creating things that are environmentally friendly or like environmentally sustainable. That the ones that I want to work on, like collect resources or help provide add resources for either ecosystems or underprivileged communities that mimic systems that are already naturally occurring in nature. So a lot of it is like engineered machines, and the concept of them are based off of a lot of like, things that animals naturally do.

Jeanine Ikekhua 55:23
I see why you were like, I don't know how to do it, because there's so many things. I'm thinking AI, I'm thinking, there are so many things you could do exactly.

Alexis Grant 55:30
There's so many ways to get into it. So my problem is more like what aspect of it do I want to be working on? And like, where like, how do I want to do it. And recently, something that I've realized that I might also enjoy is approaching it from the not full on marketing, but the networking side and getting investors in like speaking with those kinds of people or doing project management. And I've been looking at those more as things that I might enjoy a lot. Because I feel like they will be able to bring in aspects of things I like to do and things that I actually have been building skills for outside of academics into. I think I said that sentence, right, because, and he said it as brought this up to me before so as other people, a lot of the things I do at college does not seem to be correlated to my career. Yeah, yeah. That being said, they still can correlate to me being in that field. Oh, yeah, for sure.

Hamsata Mazou 56:33
I would say even the things you involve yourself in are great skills for that are applicable to any career path. But I think the extent that you devoted yourself to these extracurriculars kind of doesn't align with like, you know, your academic career oriented things. You know what I mean? Like there's a threshold, and you've exceeded that threshold to a good maximum to the point that it's quite questionable, of, like, you know, your career and your extracurriculars. Like, where is that alignment, but you say that these are aspects of that, like career path that you wanted to join me, I'm like, That makes perfect sense. It aligns with your things. And then you being educated in that field. That seems like a field that you need to be thoroughly like, you know, educated in and getting a degree in it, but be able to use the soft skills and stuff that you've learned in these extracurriculars. As a great like intertwining and I feel like makes the most sense for you. Like I was like, Yeah, this seems perfect for you. And if you ever wanted to, like dive more into like, the more technical sides of it, you could because you have a degree in it. But if you just want to stay more on like the project management, or like the marketing stuff of it, you can as well, because you have experience in that as well, as also

Alexis Grant 57:39
Yeah, and like out of all the things I'd be interested in doing with it. And the engineering side is the only one that I actually, like, 100% need a degree for, you know what I mean? Like networking, you don't need a degree for there's certain things in business, you don't need a degree for engineering, you need a degree and you need certification, like point blank period, unless you were going off on your own, and starting a project on your own. You need a degree and even doing that to raise money. And to be like, Yeah, I don't even have an degree in engineering. And I want to start this engineering project, like, you know what I mean? So it's like, this is the best path from it's the, it's a very secure path to because you know, engineers make good money. So it makes the most sense for me to do this, and I do enjoy it. It's not like I don't enjoy being an engineer. I love problem solving. It's just I like problem solving in other fields, too.

Hamsata Mazou 58:31
I think it also helps to show like don't limit yourself, I think, some people if you were listening to like other adult, I wouldn't say I discourage it. Hopefully I didn't. But like if other people were like, Yeah, you should leave it there. Like, you found a way to intertwine those two. And that's just to show like, whatever you're passionate about, people should pursue it, you should go because it tells you another aspect about yourself and learning how to intertwine that into what you're pursuing, or help redirect you into a different spot is just as important. So you're actually finding what your interests are and stuff and not neglecting them because they're not like, I don't know. The normal stuff. What is that normal word? Like decidedly acceptable? I don't know the regular path. Oh, standard. Yeah, no, not really, but equate to you there's another word but you know, the Norm Yeah, societal norm. There you go. Just because not the societal norm. But you know, I feel like you're like yeah, you're breaking like societal standards with like, the way you're pursuing your being like, what people would assume an engineer to do. After like, you're the outskirts of every assumption anybody would ever make, you know, the best. That's great.

Alexis Grant 59:44
I don't know how we got here. I

Jeanine Ikekhua 59:45
have no idea y'all. But

Speaker 1 59:50
we've we've recorded a phone video. Yes. wants to say,

Jeanine Ikekhua 59:53
yeah, guys,

Alexis Grant 59:54
thanks for listening to whatever we decide to call this topic. Oh,

Hamsata Mazou 59:58
okay. Okay. Okay.

Jeanine Ikekhua 1:00:00
Yeah, vibes vibes

Hamsata Mazou 1:00:02
is a good self reflection episode you don't I mean quarter bringing up things that we were thinking some things that we've noticed things we improved from this one on work on. It's like a self journey like reflection stop point you know we got to stop and reflect that's what this was within our life journey so yeah, it was good conversation.

Jeanine Ikekhua 1:00:24
Good conversation patio

Hamsata Mazou 1:00:25
for free balling we ate that whole up

Alexis Grant 1:00:28
to be quiet to be. Yeah,

Hamsata Mazou 1:00:30
I think we talked about really good topics. Great, great, great things were said. Greed realizations. Yeah. Yeah, we'll catch you on the next episode.

Jeanine Ikekhua 1:00:40
We'll see y'all later. Bye. See y'all later.

Hamsata Mazou 1:00:42
Bye. And don't forget, hold on yet something way too fast. What platforms we got, we got

Alexis Grant 1:00:52
all the platforms. We got the Spotify and YouTube and the apple podcasts application, whatever that's called. And we got the radio on the radio WKNC 8.1 FM HD one, that thing and we got others there's like two or three others. I know that we

Hamsata Mazou 1:01:12
have social media. Here is the Tick Tock we are pulling all this summer and I don't know why she forgot to mention that first and foremost and like we got to tick tock Yeah, we got to tick tock is for more casual. Ever wanted to see us be able to integrate into our Instagram. We'll still be having stuff on there. But we're really focusing on tick tock this summer vacation. So if you ever want to see what we look like we have a new series out caught on streets. It has already started and a video will be coming out soon. There are four parts we'll see the whole video go onto YouTube to the entire thing. But yeah, we want to ever know what we look like see us in outside environments from outside of the podcast and just your personas a little bit more. as well. The Tick Tock spore is supposed to be fun, good vibes, all that good stuff.

Alexis Grant 1:01:59
Yeah, and especially with on streets, that's where you might see your friends, you might see yourself, we're getting that outside worlds perspective. You know, I know y'all love our perspective, lol. But you know if you want a little sprinkle of other people's thoughts and ideas, that's on our streets,

Jeanine Ikekhua 1:02:16
sprinkle sprinkle.

Hamsata Mazou 1:02:17
Okay, I like the promotion of the edgy put through.

Alexis Grant 1:02:23
Tik Tok. Alright, Instagram. Put your notifications on.

Hamsata Mazou 1:02:27
Okay, because we come up with content this summer. And we can say goodbye. Thank you for listening. Goodbye, and see you on the next episode.

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